Wow.
Did she really say that about JFK and MLK?
I have mixed feelings about this. I’m happy because it means the end of her political career, but I’m sad because she would have been a very easy opponent for any Republican candidate to beat.

When you’re filling your car with $3 gas and buying some $2.65 a dozen eggs, remember who is running on stopping deficit spending. The war for oil is what caused prices for anything that eats grain to skyrocket. When THOSE prices rise, the fresh fruit seller raises his prices again, now you have some nice $5 a pound grapes in the market. Laugh all you want, it’s YOUR money being spent. YOU’RE the one going to pay $250 a week for groceries. Still think Ron Paul sounds like a bad idea? He’s the ONLY candidate, Republican or Democrat that is running on reducing your cost of living. Maybe you have plenty money. Me, I’m not so rich.

To give Lyndon Johnson the credit for the Civil Rights Act is one of more ridiculous things I’ve heard in a while. Wow. Yeah MLK was just riding LBJ’s coattails. Unbelievable.

Hillary wants us to believe that LBJ would have signed the Civil Rights Act without a popular mandate? Hillary wants us to believe that LBJ was more inspirational than Martin Luther King, Jr? Did LBJ have a dream? Other then POWER and the thirst to achieve power??? LBJ signing the Civil Rights Act was momentous. But the blood, sweat and tears of the movement was represented by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. I see no groundswell for an “LBJ” day in this country. Nor should there be.

Hillary is not deserving of the power we entrust to a President. She seeks the office believing that it is power and not the hopes, desires and philosophies of civil leaders amongst us that truly change our lives. Her inability to understand this is why her negatives are exceptionally high.

Obviously a candidate who fails to see that she has already lost. Now she’s trying the “tears in my eyes” technique. The bad thing? So many Americans are total suckers for tears they’ll actually fall for her b.s.

Wonderful interview, honest, passionate, intelligent. We need this level of experience and thoughtfulness for our next president.

What a blatant misrepresentation of what Hillary actually said writer! As an American who happens to be black and who was actually marched for civil rights, I agree wholeheartedly with what Hillary actually said…it was the ACTION of President Johnson (and others) that brought Dr. King’s hopes to fruition. Her comments were not meant in any way to disparage Dr. King as the writer would have one believe. The fact is, hope alone feeds no man. We need a President who is capable of acting.

Her responses are understandable now that she is behind. Circumstances dictate tactics.

Everyone seems to want to claim the C word – change. While Clinton is arguing that she has made changes, and Edwards & Obamma are arguing they will make changes, the voters are indicating that they define change as moving away from existing politicians. A changing of the guard.

Her laugh was as phony as the rest of her response to the interview. She is emotional because of the rejection of the voters and her ego and self image cannot allow her to accept that she is not meeting the voters view and understanding as to what the country needs in our President.

OBAMA 2008!

Wow. This attack looks very bad for Hillary, not for the persons she is criticizing. I’m disappointed. I thought she was handling the tough turns in her campaign well. All the same, I think she is capable, and I would vote for her if she took the primary. As it stands, however, I’m voting for Obama first.

Great questions. Gotta give Hillary credit for some real stuff for a change. Dropped the towel. Think of it, Clinton with a top-flight Fox reporter, no script. Too little, too late for this strategy?

Clinton is clearly losing it. She’s giving way to desparation, even resorting to exaggerations and clear untruths. This woman doesn’t deserve the democratic nomination at all.

I could not even listen to her entire comments, if thats what you can call them, and please can’t she hear what that laugh sounds like, fake fake fake.

To Senator Hillary Clinton:
My support!
They attacked you in the past, they will attack you in the future. They will always attack you, but: These are the same people who voted for the present government which got us into this mess.
Unfortunately there is no time to gamble anymore. We need the one with the most experience to govern and that is you and your husband.

Once again Hillary puts her hubris to work for her. To hell with the party. To hell with Martin Luther King. The wounded lioness blindly lashing out because the world has not recognized her specialness.

She has had her good qualities but they are overwhelmed by her hubris. I will not miss her. But before she leaves the center stage I think she should return the money al those good people gave to finance Bill’s legal defense, one that would not have been necessary had he told the truth.

This makes me feel very sad. Now she’s slamming MLK Jr. in addition to Barack? Unbelievable. She is not seeming very presidential today, not at all. HRC should fire Mark Penn and Bill and go back to the drawing board, or, maybe even consider retirement. Things are not looking good for Mrs. Bill Clinton.

Senator Hillary Clinton.
You have my full support.
There is no time to gamble anymore or take risks with young untried horses.
Our situation is too serious.
There will always be people attacking you mercilessly, in the past as in the future, but those are the same people who got us into this horrible situation in the first place. We need you!

The “cry heard ’round the world.” Remind you anything…she is officially done…say hello to president obama.

Intimate setting? There were over 100 people there when she cried. Its pretty obvious she is desperate and her tears are for her own campaign. She’s only been crying after the polls started.

This interview shows she has no substance. She makes claims against her opponents but yet provides no example.

Sorry Hillary, the country doesn’t want you.

Downplaying the role of Martin Luther King in favor of LBJ. Way to neutralize that brief moment of sympathy, Senator.

I cannot believe her! She really does not stop. It’s all game for her. She a phony.

This is just disgusting and I feel it is insulting of Martin Luther King and his role in the Civil Rights movement. This was really low and I think she should just pull out of the race now. She can not handle the pressure and is really losing it.

Hi….video isn’t working. It stops halfway through, right as Major Garrett is about to ask the Obama question. Please fix! Thanks

Anybody thinking about voting for Obama or Edwards should view this segment. I, for one, am still trying to understand Obama’s “message of hope.” In my view, he has not substantively addressed what he would actually do to achieve his “message of hope”. As Hillary says, “talk is cheap.” I have no doubt that Obama is intelligent, but he has no record to speak of, unlike Hillary, and to think that he is going to get a free pass during the primaries, let alone the general election, is absurd. The fact is you need to look at what someone has done to understand if they have a reasonable chance to acheive his or her goals. When you look at Obama, Hillary and Edwards, it is clear that Hillary is the best person suited for this critical job for our country.

Hilary’s comments are beyond offensive. In a few weeks, this country will celebrate the legacy of Martin Luther King, a man who died fighting for equal rights for all people. For this woman to belittle his achievements is the height of arrogance and desperation. Liberals like to pretend that they are racially enlightened, but comments like this prove that they are the real racists.

this is “cry heard round the world. sounds familiar.

This story is lighting up the blogs…

Clinton and Obama, Johnson and King

Clinton rejoined the running argument over hope and “false hope” in an interview in Dover this afternoon, reminding Fox’s Major Garrett that while Martin Luther King Jr. spoke on behalf of civil rights, President Lyndon Johnson was the one who got the legislation passed.

Clinton was asked about Obama’s rejoinder that there’s something vaguely un-American about dismissing hopes as false, and that it doesn’t jibe with the careers of figures like like John F. Kennedy and King.

“Dr. King’s dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act,” Clinton said. “It took a president to get it done.”

Clinton didn’t explicitly compare herself to Johnson, or Obama to King. But it seems an odd example for the argument between rhetoric and action, as there’s little doubt which figure’s place in history and the American imagination is more secure.

“The power of that dream became real in people’s lives because we had a president” capable of action, Clinton said.

The interview was taped, and I listened in. It’s set to air later today.

Of course, there would be little response to the good Senator when she is speaking truth to power and for the powerless. She is not only praiseworthy but president ready. Her life’s journey has been political praxis not theory, or HOPE but help.
Hooray for Senator Clinton for continuing the fight for justice in the mirky water of media color commentary and American Idol mentality. This race is a serious one not another reality show to tantalize viewers but the educate voters. The media need to stop the Olympic scoring of each debate. We don’t care what you think, it should be a forum for the viewers who otherwise wouldn’t have access to all the candidates.

Is it just me, or has Hillary made a weird misstep today? Who wants to try to make LBJ a bigger hero than MLK, especially with Barack Obama in the process of solidifying the black vote away from her? What in the world was she thinking??? Methinks she needs a martini and a long nap.

Is she trying to gain sympathy by showing tears, show what YOU CAN DO, instead of what others are doing. Seems like she cannot handle pressure.

Nobody is buying into what Hillary is selling. She really shot herself in the foot with the comments on MLK. There’s not a genuine bone in her body.

As HRC frequently states—”I’ll leave that up for you to decide.”—-Well, the only way AMERICA can DECIDE on her record is by RELEASING them. (Not conveniently AFTER the primaries.)

Tough questions dude.

Why didn’t you ask her if she likes mom, dad, and apple pie. Does she have a dog named “spot”?

Mike

It’s about time that a woman cleans the country up. No one in their right mind will sit here for the next three months and believe Obama has the skills to “Change America”. It’s true that he’s done nothing but talk, and Edwards, he’s a sweet man (like Barack too I must admit) but they are riding the wave of graciousness that the media has given them and taken it for granted. Of course Hillary is going to go on the attack. She goes on the attack because the media attacks her for the other candidates.

The only other people i’d vote for are Biden and Kucinich, and dear freakin’ effin’ geezus, we all know they aren’t anywhere near the top three.

Sen. Clinton is a racist, hypocritical, heartless, corporately-owned tool. She is not capable of original thought or real emotion. Her attacks on Sens. Edwards and Obama are at best unfounded and reveal how quickly she is unraveling. Her degradation of Martin Luther King, Jr. is a disgrace.

I think one of your particular talking points is absolutely wrong. She didn’t “appear to diminish the role Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. played” at all. Senator Clinton was shrinking Senator Obama’s lofty and melodramatic rhetoric down to actual size. At the end of the day, being “able to get it through Congress” is something she’s been doing longer. Ability to inspire by the “power of dreams” is a worthy and necesary talent for all social justice leaders…”becoming reality..”..she’s only saying she thinks she can do it better than Obama can.

Jesus Christ has inspired people for over 2000 years…Moses and Abraham for much longer…. and they never had to pass a law in any Congress in order to keep us bathed in the light of faith and hope. Many believe Moses handed down law from a source beyond our human existence.

Whenever a law that best forwards social justice is passed in the name of the people of this country, the law was one that was created long ago in the hearts of men and women.

There is no doubt that Rev. Dr. MLK Jr. was a man of God and an inspirer for the ages. Hillary Clinton was by no means discounting Rev. Dr. MLK Jr. by showing how his wonderful dream was put into action…and which President helped to facilitate the deam through government.

Isn’t that just a bit of as stretch to say the newest Senator of the top-tier-three is an inspirer of the ages and a JFK and an LBJ all wrapped up on one..and more capable than Clinton to get his agenda through Congress? How has he ever proven it?

If Hillary’s pointing that out, more power to her for the reality check.

I can’t believe that Hillary’s comments regarding Dr. Martin Luther King haven’t gotten more play. I was appalled the first time I heard them, and have replayed them a couple of times and am even more disgusted. I am a woman voter, not Black, but I was truly offended. Even though her comments got lost in the brouhaha over her teary moment, I think they will come back to haunt her.

No Obama has not switched positions on issues as you claim Hillary!
I read his bills from the senate that you brought up, and surprise surprise
you fudged the facts to make it sound like something negative against
Obama. You have fallen so far, and you’ve done it to yourself, and have
only yourself to blame. We may be a younger generation, but we KNOW
how to use the internet and research the available government transcripts
of the bills and amendments all of the candidates have taken part in.

Oh wait, that’s right you didn’t even vote on some of those amendments
to the Bankruptcy Fraud Protection Act! As a matter of fact there are a few
occasion’s where you were the ONLY senator that did not vote! Stop it,
just stop it already it is PATHETIC. We can read Hillary, and we know were
to find the legal transcripts of what was said on the senate floor those days
when the votes were cast. You aren’t leading anything, you are just loosing
your message. When you lie and get negative you loose support because
people are cynical and they will look things up for themselves in my age
group. Most of us don’t trust ANY politician so why in the hell would you
think that we would trust you!

I know Hillary is a very intelligent and capable woman, but she is not earning
the right to be the president. She is falsifying the records against Obama
and Edwards. She said that Obama voted for the Patriot Act after saying that
he would not. Well Hillary, again… He was not even in the U.S. Senate when
the first Patriot Act Bill was signed into law! And he only voted for amendments
that gave back the civil liberties and constitutional laws that the Patriot Act
had infringed upon U.S. citizens. And yet again you did not vote to support
a couple of those amenments that gave us more protection from the ever
watchful and prying eyes… you are something else Hillary. My mom and
her sisters had respect for you at one time, but you have blown that hell too.

I am very disappointed in your campaign.

McCain, Huckelbee, Romney, Clinton, Edwards, Obama have strong ties to globalist groups that want us in a North American Union and trading with Ameroes.

England’s globalist leaders devised a way to force the EU on its citizens so they couldn’t vote on it after the citizens rejected it in 2005.

The only hope we have for peace and prosperity is Ron Paul. Electronic voting machines = Rigged. Write your vote in to make it count.

http://RonPaul2008

http://www.rprradio.com

I’m still reeling from the fact that Clinton showed a semi-human side when she teared up. If she showed that side of herself more often, she’d easily win the nomination.

Hillary is dead right on this interview. She is strong, smart, with a tremendous knowledge base and a deep sense of direction. She is way above the other candidates. If the American voters do not see this, they are indeed as blind as when they voted for Bush instead of Gore.

glavela

I am in total shock!! How can Clinton say such a thing and just days from MLK day!? I didn’t hate Clinton before… but now I loath her!! I have heard of shooting yourself in the foot, but she just shot herself in the head! She is unelectable… period!

Clinton is really getting desperate here.
First shes tries to assert that Barrack Obama, an Afircan-American, doesn’t respect Martin Luter King Jr.
Next she lambasts Edwards for failing to eliminate decades of corruption during his first senate term.

Shes trying to play the sensitive, tearful girly-girl and the strong, assertive femminist at the same time and its really not working.

[...] Click here to watch Clinton discussing her emotional moment with FOX News. [...]

Ewww, Hillary needs to learn how to laugh. Did you see that mocking laugh?

To her credit, she is doing an interview with Fox News. She should have been doing more of these interviews with the press, and been more accessible. Pandering to the Left and being a political isolationist will not get her a party nomination, yet alone the White House. Democrats want someone who is electable.

At the 4:06 mark, Clinton begins her response about how Dr. King’s dream didn’t happen until President Johnson pushed the Civil Rights Act of ‘64 through Congress. She seems to be making the point that both Dr. King and Obama can inspire with words, but that it takes a President to make it a reality. But America now has the opportunity to elect the one who inspires. How is this a good argument? Does this make any sense?

(I’m ignoring, for the moment, the implication Clinton is making many people have pointed out to me — that black people can dream, but it takes Whitey to do it… looks like Hillary just figured out a way to deliver the South to Obama.)

I am now convinced that her “tearing” is all part of her act to get sympathy.
It won’t work.

What Hillary’s response misses is this: what would it be like to have a PRESIDENT who is able to inspire the nation the way MLK did? At this point, Obama has clearly demonstrated he has that kind of power to inspire and there is at least a reasonable chance that he will also have the ability to get things done in Congress. He is not devoid of legislative experience, and in fact has served more years in elected office than Hillary. So he could well combine these two attributes. Hillary, on the other hand, is never going to be an inspiring leader in the MLK or JFK mold, and I don’t think she pretends she ever could be. So even if you grant her the dubious claim that she has somehow proven herself to be unusually talented in getting major legislation passed, she has no hope of being the rare, historic combination of inspiration and effectiveness that Obama at least MIGHT be. And as this amazing victory over the Clinton machine unfolds in New Hampshire and beyond, it’s going to be more and more difficult to cast Obama as “merely” an eloquent speaker. This campaign started with him and his wife deciding to run; everything that’s happened since–choosing staff, raising money, motivating volunteers, using the Internet– becomes evidence that he has some pretty impressive organizational and management skill, as well.

Senator Clinton may be candid and emotional in the campain trail, but she is still a liberal that will raise our taxes, a phony that wants to get into our emotions, and someone who will bring the same of the old thing…. the Clinton years of lies and deception…Not what this country needs at this time! A liberal that does not know how to solve the problems that our country is going through.

[...] comment. Only a few hours later, she brought up the civil rights legislation herself in remarks to a Fox News correspondent. Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama have been in a running feud arising from her suggestion at [...]

Is this woman ok, what is wrong with her, she is all over the place making some childish remarks and acting like the presidency is something she is entitled to. No matter people don’t particulary like her. Come on, she should learn something in her age, grow up. please

every time she speaks we hate her more…what a shame that the Clinton’s don’t realize it is time to go…yikes

Hillary Clinton asked… “What is the best way to judge what someone will do?” She went on to say… “Usually it is by looking at what they have done.”
While this is the first time I agreed with anything she had to say, I truly hope that the American people take a very close look at EVERYTHING she has done! If that happens she won’t be moving back into the White House!

Wow. Did she really marginalize the role of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. in the civil rights movement? I thought she was moved when she saw Dr. King speak in Chicago as a teenager. I guess we should change Dr. King’s day to Lyndon Johnson day.

Did I hear her say she CARES about people?????? CARES about PEOPLE???

Did she care about:
. Paula Jones- Nearly raped and then destroyed by her Bubba?
. Billy Dale- who she got fired and then falsely accused of embezzlement?
. Juanita Broderick- Raped by her Bubba?
. Kathleen Willie- Groped and humiliated by her Bubba?
. Ken Starr- Whom she and Bubba did everything they could to destroy?
. A whole host of others she and the Bubba MAchine stomp and destroyed.

Hmmmm I guess they are not “People”.

I guess It depends on what the meaning of “People” is…

What a lying, disgusting hypocrite!

I can’t stand Hillary but she was 100% right about this:

“She also accused Edwards of displaying a phony revulsion at the power of special interest lobbyists, saying he did nothing to confront them during his one term in the Senate.”

He’s a ROMNEY size phony….

As a 30 something conservative Republican male from Missouri, I actually agree with her assessment of Obama and Edwards. It is especially unfortunate that Obama and much of the media has already elevated him to the immortal status of Lincoln, JFK, and MLK.

And to expand my comments… Overall, I think that Hillary’s display of emotion was very real, very valid, and very necessary.
First, as much as I disagree with her policies, party, and politics, I empathize with, and can relate to her authentic and sincere frustration and exhaustion.
Second, if people for whom I have worked and fought for over decades, all of a sudden abandon me for someone else of another age, race and gender, I would be very angry and very upset at the very least.
And third, if nothing else, this display was absolutely necessary for her politically because in order to recover and/or salvage any undecided voters, they will be coming from one of her Democratic demographic bases of white, middle-class women and suburban mothers. Moreover and ironically, it is this particular demogaphic that makes up the overwhelming majority of OPRAH’s audience and fans. And even more ironic, rightly or wrongly, it is this demographic and generation that has been conditioned to respond and relate to others only after they have reduced themselves to a state of complete personal vulnerability and public “cry” of self-absorbed victimhood.

As a personal political junkie, it is these type of thins are nothing short of the exciting rollercoaster that I’ve been waiting for… I can’t wait to see what’s next today… No one could make this stuff up if they tried…

Andy Buhr
St. Louis, MO 636-675-1972

I kinda liked her before, but now I am furious. She totally disregarded the role of African Americans in the civil rights movement. Hillary actually believes that only politicians can do things. Obama believes in the people, Hillary talks like she is better than us. I might have voted for her before, but not now.

Watch your back Obama. Clintons will go to no ends to be nominated. They are dirty, they lie, and camnnot be trusted. They are phoney and evil.

You know, I am a big Republican, but PLEASE. I’ve had enough Hillary bashing. I want to hear issues!

Hillary Clinton simply said that MLK could not have enacted policy or law. She was right. It took a LAWMAKER to do it. Just because you march – that doesn’t enable you to suddenly make laws for our nation! That’s common sense!

Although this is a democracy, just because people speak in public at massive rallies doesn’t make them able to debate on the floor of the senate or veto bills. That’s why we elect people. THAT is what Hillary Clinton was saying as the difference between hope and action. Hope is what MLK brought. He brought awareness. He brought the issue to the foreground. However, constitutionally, he was powerless.

This kind of false representation of facts is absurd. Hopefully people in our nation have more brains than this. I am also surprised to see FOX spin this in such an incredible manner. I’m a fan, but this was way too much.

Hillary needs to remeber that it was not President Johnson that got the civil rights passed, but the Minority leader in the Senate Evert Dirkson (Republican) that was able to get the votes needed to pass the legislation. The civil rights laws were filabustered by Senator Bryd ( Democrat).

Giving Obama a free ride is doing a disservice to the country. It really is about Obama’s message. He can’t point to a record of accomplishment so he talks about bringing people together and giving people hope. The media has forgotten their job! They are responsible to inform voters of the differences between candidates, not to endorse or support just ONE! As they have with obamaboy!
**CNN last night Lou Dobbs said they polled the young voters supporting obama (which is how he is winning the recent caucuses) NOT ONE COULD SAY WHERE HE STOOD ON ANY ISSUE?? With the country at odds with so many foreign countries, it is horrifying to think of Barrack “Hussein” Obama (Muslim) running our country. You think we are in trouble with bush/Chaney
Senator Barack Obama won the Iowa Caucuses. New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson placed fourth. But did they really earn their finishing positions? The answer may be surprising. In the now past ABC New Hampshire debate before the January 8th first-in-the-nation primary, the rules were that only the candidates who finish in the top four slots in Iowa could participate, meaning that second-tier candidates who placed fourth could live on to continue their campaign another day. In the last hours before the Iowa caucuses Obama, who wanted to pad his victory and hedge his bets, approached Joe Biden with this, proposal: In precincts where Biden had a local official loyal to him, and if Biden wasn’t viable, then Senator Biden would tell his organizers to move his supporters over to Obama en mass. Conversely, in precincts where Obama had more than enough supporters, he would lend people to Biden to ensure Biden a fourth place finish so that he could,continue Joe Biden actually considered the proposal. An anonymous source close to Biden told the Washington Post that the strategy could be “viability for victory.”When the media found out, Obama’s camp admitted that the conversation took place. Biden, who when asked about the proposal at a campaign event said that the deal could “probably” help both campaigns; however he later rejected the deal on “moral grounds,” a source in Biden’s Iowa organization told the Rev. Rob Times on condition of anonymity. History recorded that Joe Biden placed fifth in Iowa, and subsequently dropped out of the race. On January 4, the day after the caucus, the New York Times reported strong rumors that Obama made the same deal to Bill Richardson that he previously offered to Biden, only this time the deal was accepted.The Times article describes not only the rumors, but gives an eye-witness account and confession of an Obama official telling Richardson supporters that a pact had indeed been made between the two candidates. “That’s what the leadership has said,” admitted Deb Copeland, an Obama volunteer as reported by the New York Times. “What we’re concerned about is we heard of a few people going to Hillary. And we want to keep you together,” she told the Richardson supporters at the 64th precinct. Volunteers for the Biden campaign told the Rev. Rob Times that Obama organizers used the same speech about a “pact” to lure supporters in at least two precincts where Biden was only a few supporters shy of viability.Representatives from both the Obama and Richardson campaigns deny that such a deal was ever struck, yet first hand testimonies clearly paint a far different picture. The Effect in the end, the effect of backdoor wheeling and dealing between campaigns is that Richardson’s fourth place finish could be artificial, and Obama’s victory margin is larger than it would have been in a democratic system. Our democracy is based, in part, on the concept of “one man, one vote,” and a vote by a secret ballot, free from the judging eyes of neighbors and the media, free from bribery, and free from the influence of political activists. Had the Iowa contest been based on a ballot, and had caucus voters cast a single vote for the candidate of their choice as is the most fair method of picking a president, then Obama may have come in second and Richardson in fifth. If Obama’s victory margin had been smaller, or if he placed second, then the dynamic of the race would have changed drastically. Edwards, Clinton, and even Biden may have all come out of Iowa in stronger positions than any of them have.In part, the system is to blame, but those who took advantage of it and exploited it for their own purposes, namely Barack Obama and Bill Richardson, are not without culpability and their misdeeds should be remembered in the minds of voters.

Senator Barack Obama won the Iowa Caucuses. New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson placed fourth. But did they really earn their finishing positions? The answer may be surprising. In the now past ABC New Hampshire debate before the January 8th first-in-the-nation primary, the rules were that only the candidates who finish in the top four slots in Iowa could participate, meaning that second-tier candidates who placed fourth could live on to continue their campaign another day. In the last hours before the Iowa caucuses Obama, who wanted to pad his victory and hedge his bets, approached Joe Biden with this, proposal: In precincts where Biden had a local official loyal to him, and if Biden wasn’t viable, then Senator Biden would tell his organizers to move his supporters over to Obama en mass. Conversely, in precincts where Obama had more than enough supporters, he would lend people to Biden to ensure Biden a fourth place finish so that he could,continue Joe Biden actually considered the proposal. An anonymous source close to Biden told the Washington Post that the strategy could be “viability for victory.”When the media found out, Obama’s camp admitted that the conversation took place. Biden, who when asked about the proposal at a campaign event said that the deal could “probably” help both campaigns; however he later rejected the deal on “moral grounds,” a source in Biden’s Iowa organization told the Rev. Rob Times on condition of anonymity. History recorded that Joe Biden placed fifth in Iowa, and subsequently dropped out of the race. On January 4, the day after the caucus, the New York Times reported strong rumors that Obama made the same deal to Bill Richardson that he previously offered to Biden, only this time the deal was accepted.The Times article describes not only the rumors, but gives an eye-witness account and confession of an Obama official telling Richardson supporters that a pact had indeed been made between the two candidates. “That’s what the leadership has said,” admitted Deb Copeland, an Obama volunteer as reported by the New York Times. “What we’re concerned about is we heard of a few people going to Hillary. And we want to keep you together,” she told the Richardson supporters at the 64th precinct. Volunteers for the Biden campaign told the Rev. Rob Times that Obama organizers used the same speech about a “pact” to lure supporters in at least two precincts where Biden was only a few supporters shy of viability.Representatives from both the Obama and Richardson campaigns deny that such a deal was ever struck, yet first hand testimonies clearly paint a far different picture. The Effect in the end, the effect of backdoor wheeling and dealing between campaigns is that Richardson’s fourth place finish could be artificial, and Obama’s victory margin is larger than it would have been in a democratic system. Our democracy is based, in part, on the concept of “one man, one vote,” and a vote by a secret ballot, free from the judging eyes of neighbors and the media, free from bribery, and free from the influence of political activists. Had the Iowa contest been based on a ballot, and had caucus voters cast a single vote for the candidate of their choice as is the most fair method of picking a president, then Obama may have come in second and Richardson in fifth. If Obama’s victory margin had been smaller, or if he placed second, then the dynamic of the race would have changed drastically. Edwards, Clinton, and even Biden may have all come out of Iowa in stronger positions than any of them have.In part, the system is to blame, but those who took advantage of it and exploited it for their own purposes, namely Barack Obama and Bill Richardson, are not without culpability and their misdeeds should be remembered in the minds of voters.

Hillary needs to take into account how Lady Bird Johnson caught LBJ red-handed with one of his secretaries. Besides, MLK was a womanizer himself. I admire him and what he did was great, but he was no saint like some people make him out to have been. To all Paulites: America does not need to become a third-world nation.

The unexpected question to Hillary about how she hold up under the stress of the campaign by the independent photographer was a set up. the photographer once worked for Jimmy Carter when he was president.

Gee, pre-arranged you think?

I STILL DON’T SEE A DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE THAT CAN BEAT THE RUPUBLICANS IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT SEEM TO THINK OBAMA IS A ROCK STAR,WOULD VOTE FOR SPRINGSTEIN IF HE WAS RUNNING. ISN’T IT FUNNY NOW THAT SHE IS RUNNING BEHIND SHE DOES AN INTERVIEW ON FOX. PRETTY PATHETIC.

ISN’T IT FUNNY NOW THAT HILLARY IS BEHIND SHE DOES A LONG INTERVIEW WITH FOX? HOW PATHETIC.I DON’T SEE ANY DEMOCRAT BEATING A REPUBLICAN IN THE GENERAL ELECTION. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT HAPPENS IN NH OR IOWA. THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE STILL TO VOTE. TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY WHO WANT TO VOTE FOR A ROCK STAR,YOU WOULD VOTE FOR SPRINGTEIN IF HE WAS RUNNING.

It’s unbelievable how soon people forget about 9-11 and now you want to vote for a muslim as our next president. Barack “Hussein” Obama? Does that not tell all ? He says he does not practice his muslim religion and that is just one more lie that all you gullable voters are falling for!

Wise up, before it to late!!

Hillary should learn her history. She makes the statement that Presidents Kennedy and Johnson were for Civil Rights legislation and that President Eisenhower didn’t even try. What pure crap. This is a complete frabrication. President Eisenhower brought desegregation to Washington D.C., worked at breaking the barriers of ’seperate but equal” in the public schools (remember Little Rock, Ar. 50 years ago and those American troops taking black children to school?), Eisenhower broke the color barrier in the military and lastly tried to get Civil Rights legislation approved in the late 50’s but was stopped by the most powerful man in the Senate, Lyndon Johnson.

Lastly, Johnson would never have pushed Civil Rights legislation if not for Dr. King. Johnson was a pure bigot, who did nothing but thirst for power. Hillary do your due diligence.

I am really getting sick of her my experiance is bigger than yours, I care about people and you don’t approach. Emotionalism is fine in a president…when its real. Does anyone really buy into her “I feal you pain” bit? I we going to hear how she “really conects with people”. Let us not forget that when Bill was called out on his Oval Office Extra Curricular activities she was the first pitbull to lash out at the throats of anyone who would dare say that he would do such a thing. Anyone remember the “Today” show when she lashed out at Republicans for attacking Bill? Louis Nardozi you are so right in your look at the economics of this election. As a teacher I am feeling the pinch now with the rising costs of everything… If Hillary gets ellected I can’t wait to see my tax Bill sky rocket with public health care on my taxbill. If we as Americans want to see the country improve and get over all the political infighting of “I hate you beacuase your a Republican” I hate you because your a Democrat” then we do not need anoth Clinton in the White House. Those who want cahnge need to look at the last three presidents and ask what were thier last names…Answer Bush, Clinton, Bush….now what Clinton? hmmmm? That really does sound like change now don’t it?

This Newsman?!/reporter?! is not capable of honestly reflecting or capturing in words what actually was said to him. I’m an independent voter who sees opinion distorting news in this piece. It’s a disservice to the public, especially those who don’t take the time to get their information from the source.

Funny how after O’Reilly has invited her on a million times, suddenly shes available to FNC. Can you say “self-serving, manipulative wench”? Yes, she cares about people…very specific, hand-picked people.

What Hillary doesn’t get is, even if there is some truth that she has, strictly by her “association” with the presidency by living in the white house for eight years, notice that I don’t term it as EXPERIENCE, only ASSOCIATION, it isn’t that important to the average voter. In reality, she is dis-liked by most voters and hated by at least 50% of that group.
America is anxiously waiting to shove her and her narcissist husband back to Arkansas, or wherever, to the trash heap of the scorned and rejected has-beens.

Even as a Republican, I would rather face her in the general election over Obama, because she is a slam dunk to get trounced, I’m glad his efforts will push her out the door sooner. Obama may be an acceptable candidate, but he’s still on the Democratic train heading down the wrong track for what it’s going to take to get America back home, where it belongs.

Riiiiigghht. MLK was just dreamer, right Hillary? What an interesting way to justify your candidacy.

Go Barack Obama!!!

It’s wonderful seeing Hillary and Bill’s boom-a-rang karma being played out on the world stage.

I was surprised that Chris Matthews of Hardball didn’t see the icy glare in Hillary’s eyes as she turned away from him after their gushing check to cheek exchange.

Bill, she’s all yours,you deserve her, especially now as she’s grasping for air.
Good luck old man, if you thought it was hell before just wait………….

Blessings and strength to the Obama Family.

The Clintons are the most dangerous couple in America since Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, who divulged nuclear secrets to the Soviets in the 1950’s and were executed for their actions. This couple will stop at nothing to attain their goals of blind political ambiitions. Let me define the definition of “is” for them. It IS over.

Sorry, Hillary! You dodged, again. You did not response to your taking money from the lobbyist and interest groups. A typical Hillary. You are now past!

Good bye Hillary. I agree, it is a sad day, because her demise this early on in the campaign means that she won’t be around to run against the republican nominee.

Yes, Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act into law, but it was the Republican Congress that passed it. Give credit where credit is due.

I am appalled that NONE of the presidential hopefuls are not EMPHATICALLY
SAYING how they will deal with illegal immigration.

That is the PRIMARY issue for many of us voting.

My God there seems to be a lot of ignorance regarding the MLK comment. I am not sure if the people who have cried racist are too uneducated to see what she was saying or if they are just trying to jump on racism to get attention away from the fact that she is the best candidate and has the strongest chance by farrrrr to beat the republican nominee. Obama and his supporters are sadly mistaken if they think he can just keep smiling and throwing out the change word, something I fail to see he has done any of so far and win the Presidency.

Hi… It’s like the old Clinton day’s again… Carville, Begala, etal. We have a lying X-President who has been IMPEACHED (does anyone care anymore, was that not a total disgrace?), a female Clinton who has only stuck with her immoral husband so she would have a crack at the Presidency, who also is a verified liar, and the old rat pack. What a disgrace! I am over 60 years old so I remember when America was respected and Politicians, while not being 100% honest, had some decorum and cared enough to band together in the interest of our Country, especially in a time of war. I can only pray to the “In God we Trust” of yesteryear and hope that there are enough American people like me who REALLY care, who will select a real President / Leader and not a Hollywood like performer.

“What a blatant misrepresentation of what Hillary actually said writer! As an American who happens to be black and who was actually marched for civil rights, I agree wholeheartedly with what Hillary actually said…it was the ACTION of President Johnson (and others) that brought Dr. King’s hopes to fruition. Her comments were not meant in any way to disparage Dr. King as the writer would have one believe. The fact is, hope alone feeds no man. We need a President who is capable of acting”.

WELL SAID.

Isn’t it something how things can be taken out of context so easily and then the sheep suck it all in.
Come on people! Get your facts straight.

Hillary in her last statement says, “I’m the president that can bring that about…”
Shouldn’t she have said, I’m the person that can bring that about…?
I’m concerned about the arrogance of her statement prior to the election.
Will she be using the lost F.B.I. files found in her White House bedroom containing personal information on elected leaders in Washington to win the Presidency?
Or as she said at the Kennedy center a few years ago, will she consult her mentor Eleanor Roosevelt on what steps to take?

She ended the interview with this sentence: “I’m the president who can bring that about.” Ahem. Not yet lady. She might have said: “I’m the candidate who can bring that about.” This from the woman who took new-age counseling in the White House and “channeled” the voice of Elanor Roosevelt. That’s the trouble with Clintons: they constantly have in their mind’s eye the “historicalness” of it all, the resonance, the gaze of the leader, but no substance. It comes from partying with the Bloodsworth-Thomases and other television production hacks. Shallow.

Hillary says her “emotional moment” was for how she felt for the American people?????

Hillary is ONLY about Hillary!!! Coming from a woman, I KNOW how women behave. Her adgenda is for herself, NOT the American people!!!!

She is no Margaret Thatcher, nor a Benazir Bhutto, that’s for sure! The only thing she may have accomplished in being the first woman to run for American Presidency, is open the door for someone else more competent. We probably will see more women coming forward in future elections.

Charlotte, NC

The current media attack against Hillary is ridiculous. People wake up in the presidential term from 1992-2000 were good time in America for all classes economically. Never in the history of America has gas been $3 a gallon, Milk $4.50 a gallon, and Yes one dozen of eggs $2.50. Hillary has devised an economical plan to get a financial stability back to the U.S.A with the hope of restoring pride as an american. We have gone through 2 major layoffs under the the “Bush” regime, Ford and GM. In the light of the recent reports of Gena “6″ and Hurricane Katrina it is more than clear of the tactic that is being used here. Republicans will swing vote in the primaries to boost Obama up but on election day, If Obama is the forerunner on the voting ballad, he will conceed to a Rebulican president because we still have numerous racial tensions that have not been addressed in this country. Cynthia Mckinney spoke out about President Bush lying about weapons of mast destruction, and they did the exact same thing to her. They used the swing vote tactic. It is also clear of the thinking and thought process of Americans still today that “good ole boy” network who will be damned if a woman will lead or give direction regardless if she is articulate, intelligent, and has a proven track record. We all want change but after “Bush” , we need someone with experience and integrity. VOTE HILLARY 2008!!!!!

I’m not buying the tears from Hillary. She is just upset because she thinks so highly of herself, she never thought in a million years that she wouldn’t be number 1. Hillary Clinton scares me. I am a woman and I am from Arkansas and I do NOT support Hillary. Perception is everything and my perception is that she is a very dangerous women, she will do whatever it takes to get her way. After everything the Clinton’s have done, I still find it hard to believe that anyone would support them.
I would be hardpressed to even think the tears are for real….again, she will do whatever it takes to win.
GO MIKE HUCKABEE ! ! !

HILLARY 2008

Barack’s message reflects the youth’s calling on causes greater than one
self while Hill’s message is me, me, and me. The winner is very clear as night
and day. It reflects personal character, the calling for self-sacrifice and
willingness to learn other viewpoints to achieve a common ground. This message
is very idealistic and the youth are idealists and some older people still
haven’t lost their youthful idealism. It resonates widely with voters because
most voters still has that idealism within them. I don’t consider JFK is really
that great president, but he was able to tap into that idealistic callings to
promote programs that really worked. No amount of slogan changes can help
Hill’s campaign and their constant adaptation only showed how out of focus was
their message or their message just doesn’t carry the gravitas of an
“experienced” candidate. Hill’s tearing up yesterday shows her frustration and
fear of really losing to Barack like she was staring at reality. I consider it
to be a reflection of her true feelings and got my empathy, but not my vote !
Her time is passed, and she should just learn to accept fate as Al did and pick
to work on causes that is greater than one self !

PLEASE PEOPLE STOP READING MORE INTO SOMETHING THAN THERE ACTUALLY IS. THERE WAS NO MALICIOUS INTENT NOR DID SHE TRY TO DOWNPLAY ANYTHING MLK SAID OR DID. HE WAS A GREAT PUBLIC SPEAKER WHO HAD POWERFUL SPEECHES (WRITTEN) FOR HIM. AT THAT TIME IT WAS JUST THAT(A DREAM) AND IT DID TAKE MORE TO MAKE IT A REALITY. I AM A MAN OF COLOR WHO DOESN’T PLAN ON VOTING FOR CLINTON, BUT LETS NOT FORGET THE REAL ISSUES.

There are two people on this planet that I can never ever vote for: John McCain and Hillary Clinton. They are both part of the problem in Washington.

Regardless, of what we say or what she says. She remains the the other half of the Clinton regime. Look you square in the eyes and lie up a stream! I don’t trust her (period)

Bill Clinton speaks to the Obama Fairy Tale – but his advice is best left to Mrs. Bill Clinton. For individuals who have failed to effectively run their household, its amazing that they have soo much interest in clarifying the position of people who have effectively demonstrated they can speak for themselves. Experience failed, so it became change. Talk about flip flop positions. The same women who asked for your vote on the basis of experience – should talk about her experience in health care. Further, its amazing that people count being first lady as presidential experience – it most assuredly is Not. She wants credit when it isn’t earned and wants to stand on a soap box for attack ads and tactics when it suits her. I pray it is all too little too late.

Any candidate who gets the Democratic nod is still just preparing for the bigger battle. As a woman, this is certainly one woman I don’t want to represent me. I used to hope that being “for ” Obama didn’t have to mean being “against” the other candidates. I’m starting to care less. When you show your real colors this early, I hope that failure is on the horizon – quick and swift. This is a long race, and if clinton stoops to this mess early on, God help us all. There isn’t a positive or truthful bone in her body – in my opinion. And, it is the opinion of each voter that is going to matter.

Senator Clinton has finally ran into a wall she couldn’t climb in Barack Obama and all her desperate actions now are amusing since she is playing from a position that nobody expected her to be in. Senator Obama is certainly the flavor of the moment in Campaign 2008, I am eager to see how the Democratic Convention plays out between the party’s old standard bearers (Clintons) and the up and coming force of Obama. The general election dynamics will be great this year, I hope these sustancial changes in the political landscape will cause voters from all parties to get in the game and VOTE!

Justice is still pursuing Hillary and the Clinton crowd for many years.
Maybe Justice will be served again.
Her remarks about “Our Country” Dahhhhhh!!!!

This is truly a sorry state in her campaign. She is just giving you guys all the ammo you need to trounce her. I finally understand why you say she is a phony. She would do anything to get the presidency it seems like. I mean to denigrate Martin Luther King’s role in the Civil Rights Movement is deplorable. Hell, I’m a democrat, but if she gets the nomination, I just may vote for the Republican nominee. At least I know where you guys stand……and because I will be in that top 5% income bracket as well in the next 5 years lol!

For a woman that is always screaming “change”, what is she doing that is new? We have had a Bush or Clinton in the White House for the last 20 years. Hillary, if you want change, get out of the picture.

LISTEN America, the internationals are RACIST. They will laugh at OBAMA. If you really want change it will have to start overseas with our foreign affairs. That is the foundation of EVERYTHING. And putting a black man in power is not going to help. He sounds great to me and I would love to have him but not until we are back on our feet as a nation.

For those of you who say, GO OBAMA, did you graduate HIGH SCHOOL. You are all part of the problem in our country. You see a trend and without educating yourself you jump on it. WAKE UP!

I read an article written by Dick Morris, his analogy of Hillary was straight on. He said the American people will see the real Hillary after Iowa. This country needs Hillary like an airport runway needs a hole.

People constantly address the success of Hilary…she has none! Her husband was president. Hillary has a failed health care plan and has scared anyone that might confront her with her private investigators. People actually need to see that Hillary will be like all others of the past. She has been a Senator for how long and what has she passed in Congress? What has any of them done in Congress? We are ready for a woman president, just not Hillary, Nacy Pelosi or Barbara Boxer. We need CHANGE and the only one that can a fresh perspeective in Washington is Obama.

I would label her disingenuous at best. No one changes positions more often than the Clintons…their positions and statements are based on the latest opinion survey. Her well-timed tears are for only for herself. She believes that she is entitled to the presidency but reality is getting in her way. I say good riddance to Hillary (and that nerve grating cackle!!), Bill, the Clinton machine and all that goes with them.

While I don’t agree with virtually any of Hillary’s policy ideas, I have to say, that was the best interview I have ever seen her do. Relaxed, not stiff; making rational arguments about her competition. She should have been giving FOX those types of interviews for the past year!

i think everyone is really not ready for a women president all everyone has done is bring her down and put lots of pressure on her ya we will have a chenge if we chose a african-american president but what bigger change then a strong headed women. i think we as a sociaty are not ready vcause we still dont knowlege strong inteligent women that have made a chnge like hilary
hilary 2008

Hillary made a totally unbelievable comment. It shows how petty and, yes, stupid she is. Martin Luther King made all the difference in the world, Hillary, and Johnson’s signature was a mere footnote. I was there. I lived (as an adult) in those times. Without King, nothing would exist to sign. Trying to belittle Obama with slights like this only shows that Hillary has no shame.

Talk is cheap she says!! What a hoot….all she says is “I did this” and “I did that” and when you look into those things she was more often than not just a participant and not the initiator or leader….she did not take on the drug companies like she said she did..just rhetoric (look at her history of dinners with lobbyists); she had nothing directly to do with the 7000 kids in NH who she claims now have health insurance because of her. I give her credit for being able to tell more lies on her feet than any other politician and get away with it because so many American voters do not question or check out the facts. Another trademark of her campaign is that she is always slamming Bush and saying she wouldn’t have done what he did but never offers anything concrete to explain why and what she would have done differently. She doesn’t get it…we’ve all had enough of Bush…that’s the past and old so get on with the new….we had Bush, Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Bush and we don’t need another round of Clinton!

Clearly the great majority of posters here have poor listening and/or processing skills. Some of the conclusions you jump to would be humorous if they weren’t so scary.

Anyone listening to Sn. Clinton would recognize that she is certainly not bashing MLK nor is she even minimizing that his movement was the obvious catalyst to the bill. She is only saying that it “takes a president” to get it done. I.e. and not a noodle who will cave in. And her only real point is this – examine the records. Which most of us Americans are too damn lazy to do, when it’s easier to sit and play God with our little comments.

I don’t know who I will vote for, not even which side of the dem/rep ticket. Hell, I might vote independant. But that word, independent seems to be beyond most of us, doesn’t it poppins? Do deserve another ineffective president, such as we have now?

Can we survive another one?

JST

Her laugh was as phony as the rest of her response to the interview. She is emotional because of the rejection of the voters and her ego and self image cannot allow her to accept that she is not meeting the voters view and understanding as to what the country needs in our President.

+100 She looked very depressed; this is no god for the President of any country))

There is some truth in what Hilary said and I think the writer took it out of context. It did take a president to enact change. The Civil Rights Act resulted as an out cry from the people created by grass root expesssion of MLK and others. Where Hillary shoots herself is that she is praising a man that yes provided the catalyst for change but in this situation was not the architect of change more the messenger. Hillary is not a messenger, she is a tool. She cant create or embrace the hope of change and cant surpass the history of rubbed elbows and lobbyist favors she is en debited to forever.

Just because Hillary has a record and a stronger political background than others doesn’t mean that she is capable of giving the country what they need and want. This change most speak of can only come about from someone that doesn’t have their hands in the cookie jars of lobbyists and special interests like Hillary does. She used that horse get where she is. Hilary has experience in this government. If we want a change she is not the person for it. Adios Mrs. Bill Clinton.

Hillary’s tears were very disappointing. . .I’d like to believe that when both her supporters and critics were suggestive of a more personal, feminine side, there were seeking the essense of Benazir Bhutto, a woman larger than life. A leader, a legacy, a female, an activist, with every reason to cry, to shutter, to make justified assualtive comments against her opponents and expect to be nurtured.

Hillary a US Senator, former First Lady, who lost a cacus election in Iowa and is slated (via polls) to lose in New Hampshire. If that makes you vivous and tearful, perhaps you should begin educating yourself about both Bhutto and King.

A fact is a fact, Clinton in the english language should be a synonym for Power Hungry. Think about Bill came on TV to lie to the public about his relations with a certain person, ML. Mean while blinded by greed Hillary sits by and hangs on to her man, who has been cheating on her for years. These are the biggest gang on power mongers willing to put family values aside in deference to power. Thank godness for Obama, although i see he is getting set up for a fall. The war and economy are both losses, Obama will inherit the bushes legacy while Bush and his cronies reap the rewards of friendship being named to the board of directors for Halburton and co.
Peace

re-elect G.W Bush for a 3rd term.. Nothing is going to change except a new face. same BS.

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I agree with Mike! By the way, why is it that a lotof people try to explain away why they did something. If someone does something naural or what they feel to be ok, why explain it away. People as a whole need to relax, be who they are and run with it…stop appologizing for crying out loud. The fact that she appologized for her emotions leads me to believe that she is ashamed of them. Toughen up Hill.

It’s such a shame that poeple are not critical thinkers. Clinton did not diminish anyone’s role. MLK inspired people to act, but it was the act itself that brought about change. She didn’t say anything about hope not being a part of it. But in the end, the act of LBJ brought change. Political races are so funny. People get all excited and take things out of context. Relax and dont believe everything you hear. They did not even include the quote. This is someone else’s opinion of what Hilitary said.

People…especially young people, we need to start listening carefully especially when information on the election is coming from a multitude of sources. Senator Clinton did not attack, diminish or discredit the vital role that Dr MKK Jr played in the civil rights movement. Hilary was simply pointing out that one mans dream became a reality because of the facilitation by Presidential action.

I give her some much credit as a human being. She has been criticised and labeled a communitst because her stand for universal healthcare resonates a socialist tune. She shows a shred of compassion and emotion on the campaign trail (that many of us would not have the guts to do) and is deemed an unfit leader who already shown weakness. And now she will probably be pegged a racist because of this comment. Ooooh Hilirary attacks the civil rights movement. No…no…no listen to what she is saying!

As americans we listen to news commentators, radio, we read newspapers to enlighten us on this election. The media in this country has a history of facilitating fear, confusion, and panic among its citizens. Next month is black history month isn’t it ironic that her comment is creating so much buzz now. Would people care as much if there was no black history month, or maybe if she were black, or maybe if Obama was not part of the election all together.

Stop using the race card against Hilary and to gain votes for Barak.

My point is we need to do our research…we can not simply hop on the bandwagon of someones’ campaign because they are black…It should ultimately be about who has the experience to run our country. I am a black person from the caribbean but I will not put my hopes and dreams, and back the politics of someone who has minimal political experience.

Hilliary08!!

So, Hilary, black folks can talk and march all they want but it takes a white man/woman to get things done? Your bias is showing, Hilary. Just don’t forget that obabma’s mama is as white as you are!

The goal here is to get Hillary nominated as President and Obama nominated as VP. That’s the only deal in town, and all the rest is a circus act. Get them both maximum exposure, build up some drama….no blood, just press corp coverage. Get to the convention and surprise, surprise…unveil the “Unity Team for Change” of Hillary and Obama. No one thinks that a one-term Senator can get elected without some real experience. Not that anyone can really count up what exactly Hillary’s 35 years has accounted for.

The fix is in and all the rest is for show. And both of them know it.

Hillary Clinton did not disparage MLK. She was emphasizing the need for soemone to drive the hope and someone to drive the policy. You have to have both. She was not stating that African Americans cannot make decision or pass policy without “whitey”. During MLK’s time it was the combined work of MLK-his dream and actions-and LBK-his ability to pass law as president that made the difference. We cannot change the fact that LBK was white, and MLK was black. Hillary can bring hope and policy.

Hillary Clinton has a history of supporting causes that support African-Americans in the United States. Hillary supports causes that are important to all women, regardless of color, religion, ethnicity. Hillary supports the average American, male or female. Let us not forget that.

Let us not start using the race card in this election. For those who support Obama, you cannot have it both ways- using the race card when needed when Obama has been portraying himself above the race fray. I am a Hillary supporter, but good for him.

As a single female I vote for Hillary.

I believe what Sen. Clinton was trying to get across in her comment about Pres. Johnson and Dr. King was that no one else wanted to be looked at in a horrible light as to giving colored people rights. It took the leader of our nation to step and HELP Dr. King keep his hope alive. Two great people working together. She didn’t even mention anything about hope or race or any such thing. She was trying to stress how important it is to have a president that is willing to get the job done right. If you don’t like someone, of course you are going to try and put them down. If you do like someone it is all praises and well dones. If you can be objective, then you will see anything they say and do for what it truly is, no matter what it is.

On a side note – I am not a registered voter. So there.

[...] Hillary Clinton basically went negative on Martin Luther King earlier this week, I remember thinking that was the final nail in her coffin. [...]

Dr. King inspired America back in the 1960s and ever since. He is a hero to my wife and I and our two teenagers. It is disappointing, but should not be surprising, that Hillary diminished Martin Luther King’s role in history for political gain.

However, that transgression pales in comparison to what the Clintons did to the victims of the Rwanda Genocide in 1994. You may recall the over 800,000 blacks were butchered in about 100 days. The US, led by Bill Clinton, had an obligation to intervene under a 1948 UN Genocide Convention.

Instead, Clinton voted to withdraw UN peacekeepers and, mindful of their UN obligation, claim there may have been “acts of genocide” in Rwanda but not genocide, technically. If ever there was a time for Hillary to put on her feminist hat and disagree with Bill publicly – it would have been to stop a genocide that was taking the lives of 56,000 blacks per week.

Ironically, Bill, the nation’s “first black President” went around the UN to stop the ethnic cleansing of whites in Kosovo but did nothing to stop the ethnic cleansing of blacks in Rwanda.

Please don’t ignore my comments because you think I’m just “another anti-Clinton freak” complaining about the Clintons again. Charging the Clintons with failing to stop genocide is serious – it is not libelous, defamatory or threatening – it’s valid criticism of Clinton and the media.

Both the Clintons and the 1994 media are to blame for abandoning Rwanda. Will the 2008 media repeat the same mistake? Will you help America remember the Rwanda Genocide or help America forget the Rwanda Genocide?

Please help us remember Rwanda by holding the Clintons accountable.

[...] http://bourbonroom.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/01/07/clintons-candid-assessment/ [...]

[...] an interview with Major Garrett in New Hampshire last week, Clinton criticized the analogy Obama had drawn between his own hopeful [...]

I am disappointed in the people who have posted here, why do we play politics. Everyone knows exactly what she meant. please people let’s not go this routine. As an African American, she is correct – deal with it.

The smear campaign goes on. What a bunch of purposely misconstrued statements. IF YOU WATCH THE DAMN VIDEO at no time does she call Edwards or Obama hypocrites.

IF YOU WATCH THE DAMN VIDEO at no time does she say that “it wasn’t the hope that Martin Luther King inspired” that made a difference. She says, “Dr. King’s dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964″. Nowhere does she disparage that dream or what MLK and African Americans had to go through in order to see that dream realized.

And if YOU WATCH THE DAMN VIDEO at no time does she “accuse Edwards of displaying phony revulsion”.

What a PACK OF LIES. Is that all you can do, Major Barrett? Lie? Did you take what she said “under advisement”, too?

And the fools that believe you and will believe anything as long as it says something negative about Clinton. It doesn’t have to be even remotely true. They’ll latch on. Misconstrue, rearrange, and falsify and follow blindly along.

Amen Mr. Cude, it does seem that everyone is so readily able to dismiss the ‘94 veto by our “First Black President”. Many Americans not realizing that the power to drastically change the outcome in Rwanda was in President Clinton’s hands. Now the Clinton regime is desperately plugging it’s website which shamelessly asks people to help children in Africa, Dar-fur and other locations around the world.

I would also like to comment on the fact that, yes, it did take LBJ’s (a president’s) action to make some of the moves that were made. But do you mean to tell me that he would have taken action if it weren’t for Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King??

And besides all this, does anyone ever stop and think: “When will Hillary actually ANSWER a question, and stop selling herself like we are taught to do when interviewing. I don’t want her to ’saleswoman bulldoze’ me I want her to answer the question with pertinent information that backs up her response.

As an African-American woman I was torn between Clinton and Obama, but with her tears and now this I am certain that Hillary is not the candidate for me. I do not live in New York so I did not follow her campaign for the New York Senate; but some have said that she won by playing the “victim card” I sure hope that she is not trying to win the position of our Commander and Chief by playing the victim.

Honestly I feel that race and gender are more issues for Mrs. Clinton then any other candidate, Republican or Democrat.

She is such a liar, a spin master and a whiz at distorting things and division. Edwards did everything that HE could possibly do, so it’s unfaur to toss his accomplihment to the side b/c CONGRESS ultimately held the bill back. And MLK jr. dream began top be realised when he gave that speech igniting hope accross the country. This woman is full of double talk and is no Bill Clinton. There’s nothing uniting about DIFFERENCES. And Hilary’s discussion of “differences” really equals attack ads. I’m voting Obama.

I’ve been following US politics for a long, long time. I’m not American but count among my political heroes, Lincoln, Martin Luther King, John and Robert Kennedy.

Context is everything and Hillary Clinton’s comments are technically right as LBJ did sign the Civil Rights Act into law in 1964. But here’s the background. Pushed on by MLK and other civil rights leaders, President Kennedy with Robert Kennedy as US Attorney General had already started the process of reforming civil rights in the US when President Kennedy was assassinated. I believe LBJ continued with the Kennedy legacy by pushing for the Act to become law. This is not to diminish LBJ’s role in this passage of this law and certainly, it is true to say that MLK inspired the political activism in American and indeed in civil and human rights campaigners around the world which led to the Civil Rights Act being signed. His “I have a dream” speech still resonates around the world.

In a short television interview and in a world of “sound bites”, I’m not that critical of Hilary, whom I sure knows this contextual and historical stuff just as much as I do but who may have left out this context and be technically correct.

This year’s race for President is sure exciting though!

For a party which seems so intent on talking about “going forward” ,”looking to a new future” and “change”, it’s quite humorous to witness them bickering about MLK, LBJ and what they did and didn’t do with regard to The Civil Rights Movement and the laws affected by it.

The fact is the democratic candidates do not have a vision for the future, cannot effectively protect and defend this country, and are lost in an abyss of petty sniping among themselves. They are blindly acknowleged and followed by starry-eyed liberal voters who lack the intellect and foresight to understand what the country needs and requires to remain strong.

As hard as it is for me to admit this, Hillary is right. Had the federal government not supported the Civil Right movement, it wouldn’t have happened. I don’t think she was diminishing King-she was stating a simple fact.

If it weren’t for white people, the Civil Right movement wouldn’t have happened. Blacks lacked the political power. Whites were the lawmakers-the ones who passed the legislation, struck down the Jim Crow laws, enforced the new laws guaranteeing civil rights, etc. How many blacks were in Congress at that time? How many blacks could even vote, or dared to vote in some areas, at that time?

Out of 126 comments (plus the initial article, to which the comments putatively pertain), I counted 14 comments that display any shred of intelligence and critical thinking. (The initial commentary was not one of the fifteen.)

It is always upsetting when anyone’s words are twisted out of context. Of course, any rational reader of Clinton’s comments (that is, about 14 readers out of 126, or about 11% of this non-random sample) can see that she never actually made ANY comparison whatsoever between MLK and LBJ, and never said anything negative about MLK.

Ms. Clinton simply pointed out that in this particular example, it took more than one strong leader to effect change — no comparison made at all. Without taking away from MLK, she merely states that if someone else had been in the White House, MLK might not have been able to get a civil rights bill passed — even if, e.g., that someone was Hubert Humphrey, who had a much stronger record on civil rights than Johnson ever did. (In fact, most historians would agree that it would have been impossible for Hubert Humphrey to pass a civil rights bill.) Clinton is merely trying to use this story to suggest that the ability to get legislation passed should be considered as an important factor in choosing the president.

One can argue about the relative importance of legislative abilities and inspirational abilities; and one can debate how much of either Clinton has, or any other candidate has. But to is truly saddening to read the posts of so many voters who have actually listened to her comments (as 126 of you have apparently done), and have such little brains (as 112 of you apparently have) that you are unable to understand a straightforward rhetorical analogy. It brings to mind Plato’s derogatory description of democracy: “These, then, will be some of the features of democracy … it will be, in all likelihood, an agreeable, lawless, particolored commonwealth, dealing with all alike on a footing of equality, whether they be really equal or not.”

Unfortunately, the votes of the 112 dumbbells count just as much as the votes of the 14 intelligent commenters. Which, in the end, explains in a nutshell why campaigns are all about spin targeted at the 112, and that intelligent discourse about issues actually is a complete waste of time. Which is a sad state of affairs but is exactly what Plato foretold.

Just for yuks, my favorite dumbbells were:

– Glady Neal, who begins her commentary on Clinton’s comments by telling us that she didn’t actually LISTEN to Clinton’s comments …

– George Davis, a proud voter for 39 of his last 60 years, who yearns for the good old days when no one took sides. George hopes “there are enough American people like me who REALLY care, who will select a real President / Leader and not a Hollywood like performer.” Of course, it seems pretty clear that, in his 39 years of voting, George voted for the only Hollywood performer that ever actually served as president. So what, exactly, are you trying to tell us, George?

– hb “LISTEN America, the internationals are RACIST” who, despite his declamation that “[Obama] sounds great to me and I would love to have him,” is apparently too stupid to realize that his entire post screams out his own racist sympathies … and is probably puzzled by this suggestion that he is actually a died-in-the-wool racist, since he is also too stupid to realize THAT…

– And of course the pinnacle of hypocrisy — Pat — who admonishes us: “Let us not start using the race card in this election … As a single female I vote for Hillary”

As for those fourteen who, in my own humble opinion, have a critical head on their shoulders and should actually have the right to participate in the selection of our president, they are:

Cindy (Clinton supporter)
jay b. itkowitz (Clinton supporter)
Len Edgerly (Obama supporter)
Andy Buhr (Republican)
Jawinka Smith (Republican)
Rob (unstated)
Drew (unstated)
JST (undecided)
K. Miner (unstated)
Leah (Clinton supporter)
Sheri Sachse (unregistered voter)
Paul (unstated)
Jazzman (unstated)
Mary (dreaded foreigner)

honorable mention goes to dave, who makes a well documented case for Ike’s strong civil rights credentials, but still gets counted among the dumbbells for failing reading comprehension — Hillary didn’t say anything negative about MLK and she didnt say anything negative about Ike. She stated that LBJ got a civil rights bill passed in Congress, that JFK tried unsuccessfully to get a civil rights bill passed in Congress, and that Ike did not try to get a civil rights bill passed in Congress. Those are all true statements. Of course, it should go without saying (but bears mention anyways) that no one, including Ike (notwithstanding his respectable civil rights credientials, and notevenwithstanding the fact that he won WWII), would have been able to get a civil rights bill passed in Congress in the 1950s, since, among other reasons, MLK had not yet raised the national consciousness.

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Hillary did not diminish the role of Martin Luther King, Jr. She said his dream began to be realized when Lyndon Johnson pushed Congress to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964. I interpret her comments to mean that the measure of a successful President is to enact legislation that will help fulfill the dreams of the people.

Altho Clinton will probably make a very good president if she is the nominee and is elected..( A LOT better than G.W.B… altho that is a very low bar ) she seems very self involved and ANGRY! Her way can appear to be VERY calculated and phony. Altho this is an impromptu interview in the midst of a heated campaign, her MLK remarks seem VERY insensitive and ill advised.. especially as she heads into a Southern primary with a huge Black vote. I see the point she is making.. but it took MLK and many other Black leaders and thousands of protestors putting their lives on the line and being the recipients of absolutely inhuman treatment to bring us to the point of true Civil Rights legislation. I observed this with a very heavy heart and she should have too. Its almost as if she was “not there” in any way and is very dismissive of that whole era. This causes me great doubts about her heart, vision, and judgement . Bill Clinton she is not!

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Comment by Marla
January 13th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
As hard as it is for me to admit this, Hillary is right. Had the federal government not supported the Civil Right movement, it wouldn’t have happened. I don’t think she was diminishing King-she was stating a simple fact.

If it weren’t for white people, the Civil Right movement wouldn’t have happened. Blacks lacked the political power. Whites were the lawmakers-the ones who passed the legislation, struck down the Jim Crow laws, enforced the new laws guaranteeing civil rights, etc. How many blacks were in Congress at that time? How many blacks could even vote, or dared to vote in some areas, at that time?

Hillary is right? Initially the federal government was not in support in the Civil Rights Act. LBJ was around to pass the Civil Rights Act but it was brought to the attention of the congress by JFK.

Now starting on Mrs. Hillary Clinton:
To say the Civil Rights Act would have never been passed if it weren’t for LBJ or the government is pretty strong words. If Blacks sat back and put there trust in the government, Slavery would be alive and well today. Hillary verbally played down hope, and thats why I am disturbed by her comment. Dr. King gave people HOPE. He marched from Burmingham Alabama to the nations capitol, faced racist radicals, got arrested over 30 times, and put his life on the line for justice of ALL races.

SHE WAS OUT OF LINE and Why would she say something like that? GOD help her.

Now. It’s dollop for someone’s orgasm. It sullenly occurred to me that we both should avert him at the proficient time.

She does have a good point with her criticism of Edwards and Obama changing positions and not having really accomplished something.
Then again, look at all that experience has brought upon us in the last 8 years.

AND … she really fcuked it up with her comments about MLK and LBJ. Like as IF Johnson would have signed those bills if it wasn’t for MLK!! Without MLK those laws, bills wouldn’t even have been there.

What’s also bad that she’s given interviews to FoKKKs news?
Using a veteran-hating, biased-while-claiming-balance, victim blaming (Shawn Hornbeck, anyone?) but above all a RACIST organisation to stick it to a BLACK man … seems like very poor judgement indeed.
No wonder Obama has got 80 percent of the black vote.

She took a bite, blubbering a 100 famous people her scant fieldwork for the overeager time.

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