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BAD NEWS FOR HILLARY’S “ELECTABILITY” ARGUMENT (or “YOUR SLIP IS SHOWING”

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/01/blacks.html

New poll: U.S. more ready for black prez than female one

A new poll just out from CNN/Opinion Research tied to Martin Luther King Day today finds blacks and whites optimistic and pretty much in agreement — 84% whites, 78% blacks — that a lot or moderate progress has been made toward the civil rights leader’s dream of equality in American society.

But hidden near the bottom of the survey of nearly 1,400 adult Americans Jan. 14-17 is some disturbing news for Sen. Hillary Clinton heading into tonight’s Democratic debate in South Carolina and the party’s primary there Saturday. …

ALSO IN THE NEWS: Hillary’s history as a corporate lawyer on the Wal-Mart board goes hand in hand with Bill Clinton’s pardon–against the recommendation of the lawyers at the Justice Department–of union-busting international financier Marc Rich.

ENTERTAINMENT NEWS: Hillary’s complaint, coming as it does from a Clinton, that Barack Obama did not “take responsibiity” for something is my nomination for an Emmy for televised comedy.

You’re the same jackass that wrote off Hillary in NH. Remember all the Obama talk about his big crowds in NH. You’re full of crap.

I’m wondering who Ron Paul will have an easier chance beating Obama, Clinton or Edwards? No matter what, Ron Paul will be the true American Hero in the race.

You have got to be kidding me. Obama was defeated tonight and his bizzare comment on Clinton’s service on Walmart board was worse than his “You’re likable enough, Hillary” moment. Obama lost my vote.

Hillary lost me with her strong negative attacks.

I believe in Barack Obama. He is the president we need at this moment.

Fired Up! Ready to go!

lame, got back to russia loser. you wont vote for mccain cause he wont torture dumbasses, the reason he is a threat is because he is most like a democrat.

Of course Edwards would come off better- his very success as a personal injury attorney depends on his ability to smoothly say what will win- regardless of how much he must manipulate the truth or exaggerate the consequences. The entire problem with the Democratic field is that they ARE lawyers. Business men who run for office are used to dealing in concrete terms, and successful businessmen are honest. The opposite is true of lawyers- they manipulate the truth because in court, it is winning that matters. As our lawyer once said, in every case someone is committing perjury, it’s just a matter of proving who is lying the most and making them look the worst. And that is what you will get in a debate where the lead contenders are lawyers!

If all the black voters are going to vote for Obama only because he’s black, shouldn’t all the white voters vote for Hilary because she’s white. Why does the Press keep trying to make race an issue ?. Hilary & Obama don’t talk about race & Bill Clintons remarks weren’t racist, but the Press keeps throwing out the black & white issue .. Why ?

Why doesn’t FOX news inform readers of what the candidates intend to do, instead of just treating the election as a horse race? Also, this article takes it as a given that “powerless volunteers who didn’t ask to fight the war” in fact want to or should “prosecute it [the war]“. I’m pretty sure that most of the “powerless volunteers” would rather be home right now. If the funding were stopped, the military would have no choice other than to use available funds to bring the troops home. Unfortunately, the volunteers (most of whom didnt have many options other than joining because of their social and economic standing, or because they believed the recruiters, who are famous for their honesty) are being held hostage by those powerful interests that support endless war. They are being held hostage through the lie that cutting war funding puts the soldiers in danger. The war is what puts soldiers in immediate danger every day, and the war cannot be waged without money. Cutting funding = ending war = bringing troops home = no more killing in order to make trillionaires out of billionaires.

Since we have no draft at this time all soldiers applied for and got a job in a branch of the armed services. I don’t like the verbage “powerless volunteers that didn’t ask to fight the war”.
thank you

Obama won what?? Give me a break.

It would deff goto Edwards or Clinton. Edwards showed true sincerity. Clinton showed she knows how it all works and Obama showed how naive he is.

Obama won, pffft…..

I have to say, I agree that poor John Edwards emerged as the winner of this debate. He was able to draw attention out of the back-and-forth Clinton and Obama fight and re-focus attention on what the debate was really about: establishing the candidates’ stances on the major issues and how they plan to implement them. While I think Edwards did a fabulous job of asking great questions and making excellent points (ex. Edwards questioning about Obama’s voting history), I think the solutions that Edwards has devised for our major issues are not that strong. I also felt that it was unfair when the three of them were sitting in a casual setting how Edwards became the minority for not representing a group of people that have not had a president elected before. In short, Edwards should not be seen as a person that doesn’t represent a change in the White House because he is not black or a woman.

I do not agree that Obama is the winner of this debate. For me, this debate highlighted the flaws in Obama’s solutions: his economic plan would give the economy only a small push and his health care plan was not all-inclusive. In fact, this debate made me not like Barack Obama. He speaks very eloquently but, when I listen to what he is saying, I am not impressed. He dodges answers more than Clinton, but says things in a way that leave his audience in awe. He’s a great speaker, but says nothing.

Clinton, whether you love her or hate her, is one tough cookie. She is not afraid to say anything.

And, finally, I’m upset that these debates have closed the doors on the other candidates. While Gravel has no delegates and Kucinich is under-the-radar, they still are competing. Don’t drop them out of the debates until they drop themselves out of the race. Even if they have no chance of winning, their opinions are still of value.

Peace.

It’s too bad that Edwards is so far behind. I like him, although it’s tough to say whether he’s really less combative or only appears so in relation to the two top candidates, who are (cordially) at each other’s throats. After him, I enjoyed Obama’s wit. He manages to seem an “everyman” while still being presidential. I’ve wanted to like Clinton because I loved her husband, but I find myself less and less on her side as this continues.

The bottom line, though: they were all smarter and more eloquent than what we’ve got now.

Major Garrett, I’m sorry to say but this article is so biased towards Clinton. First of all, i have never i my lifetime seen a journalist write “net winner”…that is totally unprofesional of you. Your supposed to leave the reader wondering and forming their own opinion not sticking that in the end??

My Rating on this Article: “7/10″

As a group, the three Democrats certainly came off well vs. the Republicans.

Individually, however, Hillary came across as the wicked b/witch of the west.

It is clear that neither Hillary nor Obama are likely to accept a VP slot from the other, and it is unfortunate that they have so poisoned the waters. What a great team they could make, regardless of who was on top, if they didn’t kill and eat each other first!

This was John Edward’s finest hour to date. I’m still leaning towards Obama, but Edwards certainly deserves the VP slot, if he doesn’t win the golden ring.

It is irresponsible of CNN not to rebroadcast this debate in its entirety online.

Barack has been invited into the trenches multiple times via the Clintons tag-team strategy. Bill attacks, and if the record isn’t corrected, she safely repeats each twisted innacuracy: The twisted Reagan observation; the twisted version of his opinion on the war vote; and, let’s not dismiss this bizarre logic: Barack was an associate… at a law firm… where he worked five hours… 26 years ago… for a client… that was a church… that had a business partner… that was a landlord… that had an apartment house… that had low income tenants. Hillary’s twisted interpreatation? “Barack supported a slumlord in Chicago”. Good grief. Hey, Barack… hang in there, friend, they are clearly getting desperate.

Finally, Obama has waken up. I have kept notice that Obama has been playing the good guy game, not fighting back at Hillary at debates, and Hillary has been raining fire on him. But tonight I guess Bill Clinton has mistakenly waken up “The Real Obama”, Hillary is set on fire and she is in big trouble, not only her but also the power that kept her standing Bill. Bill is on his way to fire town, where he will be boil, cook ,dry and regarded as an ordinary civilian. From Grace to Grass.

There is more than one way to get a message out, you know.

My personal opinion is if the USA wants CHANGE, then Hillary would be the only choice we have. A man has been in the White House for the last 208 years, i think that was suffient time to demonstate what men could do for thier country? Some Presidents rose to the challenge while others fell from GRACE… George w. bush and his cronies only listened to the American people during election years? After getting elected he viewed we the people as in the way of is legacy? He could not accomplish any of his domestic policies except lower taxes for the rich? So he switched his stategy for his legacy based on WAR! He is going to leave the next President in a WAR, TRILLIONS of $$$’s in debt, a Military in shambles, and not to mention the Middle East in Islamic CONTROL? Yes i certainly think its time for a MAJOR CHANGE in Admistration… The next President should be Qualified for the White House. Hillary and Bill and a DEMOCRATIC Senate and Congress should be the Rx this Country needs to heal its self again, with the LORD’s HELP and speed…

It has been interesting to see the difference between the Republican and Democratic debates so far.

You have to say the the Democrats seem to focus more on the issues and possible solutions, where the Republicans still seem to be focused on which Religion each other is, or further Tax Cuts for the rich, how best they can help their fellow corporations, and furthering of War in various countries around the world.

All of the Republicans candidates seem quite content with doubling Guantanamo, invading Iran and apparently amending the US Constitution to be in line with … someone’s bible (they haven’t figured out which one yet - which is their next argument.

So overall - I thought all of the Democratic candidates looked good tonight.

Compared to what the Republican candidates choose to talk about in their debates, the Democrats seem to be more interested in solving problems. I almost feel sorry for the Republicans this time around.

This is FOX News - so maybe my post will be posted.

Mr. Garrett, I truly apreciate your reporting credential and style. But why are you guys in the Media can’t let us Americans, decide who’s the winer or looser? I am becoming more fraustrated, day after day regarding peole such as yourself.Do you have any Scientific proof that the rest of the country is thiking the same as you are? Please Mr. barrett I am begging you to stand amongs the rest as a Hero to true Journalism. The “FOX NOISE CHANEL” for the most part, misleading the American Public about everything they ever reported. I understand clearly that you have a job to do, but atleast you could’ve have written it as your own opinion.

Obama needs to win this race if the democrats have any chance of winning period. He is not a Washington insider and he’s overcome the huge obstacle of being a black male and and becoming a great success. I am a republican, and he is the only democratic candidate I will cross over for. I will vote for him is he makes it on the democratic ticket.

Interesting critique but I found myself wondering what all the fuss is about Obama’s inspiration. His speech pattern was tedious and I grew tired of his evasiveness. Hillary made a great point about his excuses and inability to take responsibility (sounds more like our current administration). I loved John and I have not been a supporter. I thought CNN was obvious is setting the debate for Obama to succeed: candidates should not have been seated in the same configuration twice and the opening question was designed to set the tone. I wish he had hit it out of the park but he bunted at best. I want a debate with instant source tracking to debunk or support charges. I think the Dems are in good shape but they need to stop feeding the Republicans. Also, if race or sex is no longer an issue stop debating it as of tonight.

LESS THAN A YEAR TO AN END OF AN ERROR!

I disagree with this article. Sen. Clinton was the clear loser. She not only lost ground in policy debates, but Sen. Obama (finally) brought forth the dirty style politics that she plays. At one point, it seemed like Sen. Clinton kept throwing out unsubstantiated claims for Barack to shoot down (from Republican ideas, to Iraq consistency, and ending with Rezko).

Voters will see Sen. Clinton’s inaccurate attacks as troubling. First, claims that require body language embelishment to defend (her “interpretation” of Barack’s statement on Republican ideas) are NOT presidential. Second, there is no way you can beat honest McCain if you campaign on mostly deceitful principles.

If this debate means anything. Barack will win SC, Edwards second, and Clinton third.

Mr. Garrett, I’m surprised to read this balanced summary of tonight’s Democratic debate. Thank you for your integrity.

I would like to add a little observation on leadership that is meaningful to me, and I hope someone else got it, too. Mr. Edwards questioned Mr. Obama on why he (Obama) voted ‘present’ 100 times while in the Illinois State legislature, rather than a straight yes/no. I have to admit, when this issue was first raised, I had my concerns and went looking for answers, but couldn’t find any, and I lost some excitement for Obama, because it made me question whether in fact he could make the tough decisions required by the POTUS.

But I liked Mr. Obama’s answer. I understand it, though it should be dumbed down. He made 4000 votes, of which 100 were cast as ‘present’, and it was for strategic/tactical reasons in order to negotiate and improve upon pending legislations. This is a complex answer to a complex issue, and I hope Mr. Obama can fine tune to become a simple rhetorical refutation. Otherwise, it doesn’t matter how hard Mr. Obama has worked, and how much of a vision he has, or how much leadership he might have, if people are easily swayed by simple sound bites that he can’t refute.

There’s one more point I would like to make, and that is from the perspective of being a member of the next generation, who is really tired of moral depravity, politics as usual and the politics of divisiveness.

So when a candidate comes along that doesn’t just talk that way, but also is a living embodiment, that is really exciting! And I think it’s OK for Mr. Obama to return fire on Mr. and Mrs. Clinton. It’s like this, there’s nothing wrong to use violence to protect yourself, your loved ones, and your property. The thing to see is whether Mr. Obama can remain virtuous as he defends himself. This is a great test for him if he is to become the POTUS. But first he has to overcome Mrs. Clinton and the Republican candidate.

I won’t say who I’ll be voting for this November, but I will say I will give each candidate a fair assessment stressing how virtuous he/she is / have been. The candidates are all human beings, I hope, not some robot, and they will have weaknesses and have made mistakes, but the question for me is who is sincere, honest, and will do the right thing for me, my family, my neighbors, and the American people. Who will have the heart and spirit that will protect us, and inspire us to be better than we are?

From the Republican side, I hope to see Mr. Romney make it, despite is flip-flopping, I think he does have the heart and the leadership qualities, and I hope that it will be a choice between Mr. Romney and Mr. Obama.

Also, I think Obama’s stance on healthcare will reverbate with voters. Most people don’t know or care about the concept of a mandate, but Obama defends a seemingly himself from both Edwards and Clinton debate after debate. More importantly, he has never backed down from his stance or the principles underlying his stance. You can’t be mad at that.

Thank you for your very good analysis. I felt this debate should awaken people that Clinton is the voice of politics and whoever supports her from behind. The others, Obama and Edwards seemed real and have some sense rather than “I want to be the next president”.
We need a change that is fresh and not just a make up job

They have to stop with the lies. If Obama can’t fight against the lies, how will he e able to fight for change. We need to see him fighting.

They need to stop the lies. If Obama does not fight against those lies, how will he be able to fight for change in Washington. We need to see him fighting.

Your analysis giving Obama the net winning oscar is just very very speculative opinion on your part. Others might reach different conclusion just as valid and maybe even more so. And I saw the debate winner as being Edwards. He benefitted from the tit-for-tat from the two other leading adversaries. But that is to be expected since the election is reaching its climax - the lagging behind underdog is forgotten and a side-show. Had Edwards been one of the front-runners, he would have been attacked more. It was also obvious that Obama came out definitely with a purpose of attacking Hillary via Bill whatever the question he was going to be asked and that was what he actually did. Obama is the one who lowered the debate ( in the first part ) due to this attitude. This tells the voters that he is stressed and it does NOT paint a nice picture of him. Change like he seems to echo parrot fashioned all the time is like a vague notion as the thin air wihich he punctuates with his hands and …emms… . He seems nonchalant and always searching for his answers. Hillary Clinton got taken in with Obama’s antics in the first part - understandably. It is quite difficult to stay cool when under attack like this and in front of whistling almost partisan crowds. But she did show up Obama to be a dilettante - especially about his paying Health Care proposals, his voting past ( which Edwards nailed him on too ), as well as his tendency to say that ‘that was not what he meant’ when confronted with an already stated fact. So to recap I will view the debate as a first for Edwards, second for Clinton and third for Obama. It does seem that Edwards is not going to win the nomination but neither seems Obama on this performance although he may well win SC due to his race ties.

Good Morning:

Why isnt anyone commenting on the fact that the audience in South Carolina’s debate last night literally booed Hilary Clinton for her callous attacks on Obama?

Also, is it just me who sees Bill Clinton having his wife front for him as he attempts to be the FIRST president to serve three or four terms in office? I never did think that Hilary did find her voice…She was merely serving as her husbands mouth piece.

I hope the Democrats, in particular the Clinton’s dont give this year’s elections on a silver platter to the Repbulican party. Obama is truly the well oiled engine to embark on the mission of cgange in America. Keep your head on Barack and dont be pulled in Political suicide my engaging in the war of words.

Thanks for the great reporting on the debate. We are a military family stationed in Belgium and aren’t able to watch the majority of the debates so I’m happy to find blogs like this that can shed some light on what happened. Keep up the good work!

Hillary out performed Edwards & Obama. She is clearly the one for the job. Get it right.

I believe that Clinton clearly won the “Economic Stimulus Plan” section of the debate. She was, in fact, the only candidate who actually had a proposed plan. Obama, normally a favorite of mine, said only that he would call for an immediate $500 tax cut/rebate. Edwards had to be reminded by Wolf Blitzer that he was to be speaking on his “Economic Stimulus Plan”.

This is such a burning issue right now that Clinton’s response shifted her into the “Win” category for this accountant.

I was impressed with Obama not backing down at the debate….I thought it showed strenghth on Obama’s side …What else else I obseved was the total look of hate in Hillarys eyes …..She is already trying to turn it her favor but for me that doesn’t work…It is about time somebody stood up to the king and queen of mean….I do not want someone in the White House that think it is there right to be there like the Clintons do…..Bill Clinton started all this and it makes me sick when I think of all that happened when he was in the White House…These two need only want in the white house for power and that is not what this country need right now….I want integraty and someone who will try and heal this country and unite everyone…I am tired of the Clintons presuming they are Royalty and no one but them deseve respect…..I think that Obama and Edwards should unite as one and kick the Clintons off there perch ….

Since Hillary has been on the uphill climb, we certainly have not seen any crocodile tears lately. Remember when we were little and weren’t getting our way we would work up a good cry? Some of us probably still do it today. Since her “passion” was the main reason she was “tearing up” supposedly, she should be crying all the time, or has her passion waned? No, her tears were not for passion they were because she was losing, and the White House has been her ambition since her, now meddling, husband was there.

I am a republican voter. I watched the debates last night to see what these democrates were all about. All I can say is John Edwards was the most intelligent and poised out of them all. He talkes about how we need to look at our economy from the long term, which is what we should be doing. Short term looks, just provide more instability. One thing I dislike, is this stimulus package. I really don’t see this a really working, its just like a temporary fix. They made a good point that medicare might be too expensive for some, and that is why we have people that don’t have it. I beleive Barak said that, but I liked Edwards view. He said he would help with medicare, and people could opt into it. Intead of just giving, people healthcare. People have the right to choose what they want to do. Lets keep it that way. We don’t always need the governemt to tell us what we need, and what we don’t need. I’m pretty sure Americans know what they want, especially for this election, and John Edwards is what America needs. Not two other squabblers, that need to take an economy class.

Thank you

For Better Or For Worse:

Hillary, you have shown me what strength is. I wished I had known what to do as you had when you decided to stick with your husband, despite what he had done to hurt you, no matter that it was unintentional.

In 1979, on July 14th, I got married to a woman whom I thought was beautiful in mind and appearance. I was wrong. My answer to our, what I perceived to be an unbearable situation, was to step out on our marriage. We did not seek counseling from friend or church. We were wrong.
Looking back and seing how you persevered, I am ashamed that I took the cowardly way out, by just thinking of myself, my ego, my pride, what others were advising me to do, and forgetting what our vows had told us. “For Better Or For Worse”.

During your travails in the nineties, many of your friends, wellwishers, political pundits, who knows else, wanted you to throw your spouse to the curb because of all his infidelities. You kept to your vows!!..That’s what you did!! For that, you have been branded in a negative way. I have read your bio and there is nothing that I saw that the pundits should brand you so negatively.

In my judgement, you are the most qualified person for the White House for the next term. This is not because of your formal education, or your 35 years of dedication to community involvement, but the strength of your will, and your resolve. If I were the Universe, let alone the World, I would want you to be in my corner whenever there is a crisis. I am looking forward to be saying Madam President on January 20, 2009.

Ferdi60

How could you possibly overlook the outrageous remark made by Senator Obama when, using Morrison’s words, Bill Clinton is “the first black President?” Obama stated, well, we have to see him dance “and stuff” to see whether he is a “brother” or not.

People in the audience laughed?

What would the audience have responded if a white person had said the same thing?

Obama has brought race to the forefront by that comment alone.

I guess the next words we will hear is “shuck and jive” - this is NOT coming from the Clinton campaign, but Obama’s.

How sad. He would have been an excellent VP for Hillary.

I watched the debate on CNN last night. I was wondering which one did you watch? Mr. Garret, I am disturbed to see your polotics showing here. As an independent voter, I use these debates to make up my OWN mind. This bias is not helpful. In fact, its silly. All the candidates did very well at one point or another. Mr. Obama seems like a nice young man who gets rattled easily, has a problem with some choices he made in Il. ( Il polotics, now theres an issue in it’s self huh?), has a very good idea on what to do with this war, and a not so hot healthcare plan. He certainly didn’t win that debate. I watched it with my friends and family, there were 6 of us and we all felt Mr. Edwards walked with it and would like to see more of him.
Actually, I would be comfortable voting for any of the DEM candidates, can’t say that of the GOP. What are they doing? Does, It’s the economy stupid” ring any bells for them???Or you? I have fought hard for Fox with family but I am begining to see , they really are not fair to all the candidates. Not as bad as NBC, but getting there.
It almost looks like there is a reason you don’t give Mr. Edwards more time, I am not smart enough to figure out why, but he is a viable guy with pretty good ideas, so I have to wonder what the heck is the deal?

I am a registered Independent; have been for over two years. Although I haven’t commited to any party or candidate, I have been leaning slightly toward Senator Obama. Until I decide where to apply my vote, one thing I’m sure about is “he can do better than what I’ve been seeing and saw last night. He has an authentically fresh and enthusiastic outlook”. DON’T LET THE CLINTONS PULL YOU DOWN. Stay above the fray. State what you’ve accomplished, your positions and plans on our Countries Issues. State the TRUTH and make a COMMITMENT to keep the promises you make. The American public, of which I’m apart of, WANTS TO GET IT RIGHT THIS TIME; IT’S OUR FUTURE. Also, it’s annoying to me to see how the former President has initiated this current bickering. Remember Bill, Lincoln was inexperienced and he is considered to be the “BEST OF THE BEST” of all our Presidents. One last thing, ALL you AUTHENTIC AND REPUTABLE politicians of ANY political leaning that have decided for Obama; GET SOME GUTS and DO THE RIGHT THING; get out there in your various states and proclaim PUBLICALLY your support for Obama and WHY! This petty bickering and political polarizationg is killing my American dream. …………. Bob Diaz

1. I am a registered Independent; have been for over two years. Although I haven’t commited to any party or candidate, I have been leaning slightly toward Senator Obama. Until I decide where to apply my vote, one thing I’m sure about is “he can do better than what I’ve been seeing and saw last night. He has an authentically fresh and enthusiastic outlook”. DON’T LET THE CLINTONS PULL YOU DOWN. Stay above the fray. State what you’ve accomplished, your positions and plans on our Countries Issues. State the TRUTH and make a COMMITMENT to keep the promises you make. The American public, of which I’m apart of, WANTS TO GET IT RIGHT THIS TIME; IT’S OUR FUTURE. Also, it’s annoying to me to see how the former President has initiated this current bickering. Remember Bill, Lincoln was inexperienced and he is considered to be the “BEST OF THE BEST” of all our Presidents. One last thing, ALL you AUTHENTIC AND REPUTABLE politicians of ANY political leaning that have decided for Obama; GET SOME GUTS and DO THE RIGHT THING; get out there in your various states and proclaim PUBLICALLY your support for Obama and WHY! This petty bickering and political polarizationg is killing my American dream. …………. Bob Diaz

What a surprise that Major Garrett takes every opportunity to knock down Hillary. Maybe you can offer one of your hankies to Obama. Just goes to show ya that most men feel sooo threatened by a strong, intelligent woman such as Hillary Clinton. How pathetic and sad….

I just read how sixty year old Hillary the (man) is standing before the camera’s talking about Obama is spoiling for a fight as if now just close your eyes and imagine why Bill her husband had so many other women. Do we really have to be bothered with her because she’s Bill’s wife ? I will be glad when this election cycle is over so I don’t have to look upon her face except in passing.

I am a moderate Dem who does not think that the Constitution was written by Karl Marx. I work, pay my bills, don’t use drugs, am married to the mother of my children, and I am sick of my party pandering to dependent, irresponsible social leeches who want a nanny government to take care of them. I do not like Bush, I think the Reps are in bed with sleazy corporations who would screw America for a buck,so where does that leave me? Where is the candidate who speaks for us? John Edwards is a bomb-thrower with no concept of how the economy works. Hillary is a sleazy lawyer who will do anything for power, and Obama is so far to the left I cannot stand it. What happened to the patriotic Democratic Party that looked out for our country and our workers first?

I find that the opinions expressed here are much different from my own and those of my neighbors.

First, as far as this: “Already, Democrats with loyalties in this race and some who remain neutral have fretted to The Bourbon Room that the biggest winner tonight was the likely Republican nominee…”

Any Democrat who actually said that is an idiot. There is nothing Democrats can do, no matter how horrible, that will help any Republican nominee who supports George W. Bush. Period.

In addition, I guess women like it when another women holds her own. Obama said Hillary “worked” with Wal-Mart, Hillary responded that Obama “worked” for a slum lord. Zing!
People booed?
Boo hoo.

All I heard Obama say all night long was, “One more point, Wolf, because this is important…”

That said, I thought all these candidates did really, really well.

It was John edwards’s best debate by far. Obama was a little meandering for me, but a good showing as well. But I think women (and fathers of daughters) in particular were really proud of a woman who can give as good as she gets. From the women I’ve talked to, Hillary won hands down.

Obama definitely won. I’m just hoping it helps him win the state, not just the debate.

“Bill Clinton having his wife front for him as he attempts to be the FIRST president to serve three or four terms in office?”
Are you so blinded by gender that you can’t give Hillary credit for her ability to run this country? Bill is not attempting to be in charge of the White House. Did Hillary, as first lady, try to serve as President? No! Did anyone accuse her of doing such? No! Why? because of her gender. Now that the roles are reversed many of you chavaunistic pigs can’t admit, or see, that Hillary is running for President for herself, not for her husband. To suggest that it is Bill and not Hillary running for President is outright sexist and belittling to women everywhere! I am voting for Hillary because she is passionate, smart, and cares about Americans. She has determination and will get the job done! It is time to have a female President in the White House. She can only do better than all the men who have served before her. Also, it is always the women who do the housework and clean up the mess the men leave behind(i.e. Bush and the Iraq war)!!!!

WWJD? If one is attacked turn the other cheek? Can wisdom be the guiding light? Can everyone be judge according to how passionate they are with the issues? I pray that the next president of the US will be as wise as Mahatma Ganhi or Nelson Mandela, Golda Meir, Indira Gandhi? Does Bhutto’s husband tag along like a backbone when she was campaigning for the cause? This politica in the US is very dirty. I’ve never seen anything like this before. Billary Clintons are not the kind of human beings they portrayed themselves. They’re perfect examples of Chameleons. She just lost one vote.

If you want to be a president you must be able to stand on your own - not have your spouse attacking the opponent. Otherwise, you are not ready Hillary.

It appears Hillary won the debate. It won’t be long before I start seeing more bumper stickers like the one I saw recently.

Monica Lewenskis X boyfriends wife
FOR PRESIDENT.

YOU KNOW, SEN. OBAMA WANT FIGHT BACK, IN OTHER WORDS WILL NOT MAKE A STAND EVEN WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO DEFINDING HIMSELF. DO YOU THINK THAT ITS MABY BECAUSE HE HAS A HISTORY OF NOT TAKEING A STAND, JUST TAKE A LOOK AT HIS VOTEING HISTORAY HE DIDENT HAVE MUCH A STSND THERE EATHER. WE NEED A PRESADENT THAT WILL STAND UP AND MAKE A DIFERANCE FOR US THE PEOPLE, ALL THE PEOPLE OF OUR GREAT NATION. THE DEBATE HELPED ME DECIDE. SEN. CLINTON FOR PRESADENT A PERSON THAT CAN AND WILL MAKE THE DIFERANCE, A PERSON WHO IS FOR A “POSITIVE” CHANGE.

Presidential Voters Guide, Check out the Facts for yourself…
http://www.afa.net/pdfs/08vg.pdf

This is pretty hot……….

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/hillary_and_bill_use_alinksy_t.html

Obama should be interested in this.

I disagree with you that Sen. Obama won the debate last Monday. Sen. Clinton did not have any choice but to fight back. Why is it that when Sen. Clinton respond in kind, she is the bully. Sen. Obama I think is the one who is not telling the truth.

I would like to comment, following a discussion yesterday on the brainwashing of America on the illegal immigration problem. McCain & others seem to have lead people to believe that if Mitt Romney is elected & becomes the first person to actually enforce the laws & not reward illegals with visa’s, greencards & citizenship, then there will be many service jobs that they are doing, that Americans simply will not do. This type of logic simply is not true for many reasons. Just one of these is that Americans do not understand the LEGAL immigration process. Americans are NOT against people coming here, but they want it done legally so we know who is here. I can tell you that there is a very very long line of people waiting patiently to come here LEGALLY and when there is a person like Romney in the White House, who makes it clear to the world that if you want to come here, after background checks, interviews, going through the legal process, you’re likely to be welcomed. For every person who came here illegally who is deported, there is a replacement in line who will want to come here legally to do exactly the same job. It is both the illegal problem & the legal process which Romney will fix, but he will not reward criminals who have come here illegaly. McCains plan is totally flawed & will make the problem even bigger than it is now.
Last point, it is not just Mexicans. There is no malice towards Mexicans who work hard and are good people. Romney’s no reward policy is directed towards ANYONE who is here illegally, no matter what country they arrived from. There is a big group of non latino’s who have also broken the law & jumped the legal line.
I hope people want to solve the problem Washington refuses to and vote for Mitt Romney who is the only candidate who will fix it.

Barack Obama may have won Iowa (my place of birth) and South Carolina, though he partially lost my original support and vote when he went on the Oprah Show (his wife demonstrated on that first show the “thin line she walks as a reverse racist” and since in a public speech). He, also, had my vote until he permitted Momma Oprah to racially insert herself in his politics and, although she doesn’t need the support of most caucasians since she is now a flaunting billionaire, I will never support the Oprah Brand in the future as she has shown her true colors in 2008 (with never having supported a political figure in the past).

Obama definitely won - no contest. Look at this…..after 4 years in the White House the Bush’s hand the keys to the Clinton’s, who after 8 years, hand the keys back to the Bush’s for 8 more years. Now the Clinton’s expect the Bush’s to hand the keys to them for still another 8 years. That means if Hillary wins we will have been governed by the same two families for 28 straight years! We can do better.

Hillary was doing well until the “cackle”.

Seriously, I have a couple obvious, objective points to make:

1. Wolf Blitzer actually behaved himself and asked a couple questions that were actually probing in nature, and elicited meaningful response and banter.
2. There is no question in my mind that some of the questions ( woman on the end, with a prompter to her right) were staged for Hillary, given her completely rehearsed orchestral punchlines at the end of her response. Do not underestimate the power of the Clinton war machine.
3. The favoratism for Hillary was clear, and the difference in audience support and response was palpable.
4. Finally, where were real Americans, the middle class, in that audience? Stevie Wonder? Steven Spielberg? Rob Reiner?…

Oh, one last item… why didn’t Wolf ask Hillary about the other aspect of socialized medicine? The one so aptly reported by John Stossel some weeks ago… the one where her “plan” is described as certain to restrict personal choice in health care. You want someone telling you where to see which doctor and whether it’s appropriate? If I had to live with that, my wife would be blind today , but I had the option to take her 5 hours away to Philly. Think about it, a shoe that fits everyone is going to hurt an awful lot of people.

Hillary won by a land slide! Obama thought he was in church once again with his preacher spew. Again, no laid out plans, no explaining what the big “change” is going to be. It was just all fumbles and stumbles again and again and again…I want to hear some substance!!