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Pennsylvania by the Numbers

With the Clinton campaign in Scranton, Pa.

UPDATE:

Shortly after this post went up, Barack Obama told listeners to KDKA radio in Pittsburgh that he is not  “predicting a victory” in Pennsylvania. There is no correlation to this post and that Obama pronouncement.

Also, the Clinton campaign, through chief strategist Geoff Garin and communications director Howard Wolfson, “categorically deny” a Drudge post that internal campaign polls show Clinton leading by 11. However, Wolfson also says Clinton expects to “narrow the popular vote considerably” after the Pennsylvnia primary — this a reference to Obama’s lead in the popular vote through all nominating contests. It does not appear possible for Clinton to achieve Wolfson’s narrow considerably standard without a double-digit victory.

Most importantly, the post below says the last competitive presidental primary in Pennsylvania occurred in 1976. THIS IS WRONG. Democrat and Bourbon Room devotee Mary Anne Marsh reminds me that the 1980 nomination battle between Sen. Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts and then-President Jimmy Carter went down to the wire in Pennsylvania, with Kennedy winning a narrow victory that was not sealed until two days later following a recount of votes in Montgomery County in suburban Philadelphia. The Philly suburbs were important then and they’re important now. THAT much The Bourbon Room got right.

Can a candidate win a presidential primary after never polling above 45 percent?

In theory, it’s possible. But it’s not very damn likely.

This is Barack Obama’s problem in Pennsylvania. And the Obama camp knows it. It will not predict victory because it knows that’s not possible. Obama’s goal is to minimize the magnitude of Clinton’s victory and fight tenaciously to win the perceptions/expectations war. Adjectives used to describe a 6-point Clinton victory (narrow, unimpressive, underwhelming) and a 12-point victory for Clinton (decisive, impressive, sizable) will in large measure dictate the way Super Delegates and contributors view Tuesday’s result.

The polling data suggests the race is close. But the polls, it seems, have a flaw almost identical to the polls in Ohio. Those polls pretty accurately predicted Obama’s support but under-counted Clinton’s.

The average of the ten polls in Ohio before Super Tuesday Part Two showed Clinton at 50.3 and Obama’s at 43.4. Clinton won the primary 54 to 44.

Here in Pennsylvania, Clinton’s average in the 10 most recent polls is 48.8 and Obama’s is 42.5. If Clinton out-performs the polls here as she did in Ohio and Obama hits his poll mark, Tuesday’s results will be 53 percent to 43 percent.

Is a 10-point victory enough for Clinton? It’s not enough to close the pledged delegate gap by very much. The Obama worst-case scenario is for Clinton to pick up 20 pledged delegates in a blowout well above 10 points for Clinton. But team Obama is betting on a Clinton pickup of 10 or fewer pledged delegates, in part because they expect to roll up big margins of victory in Philadelphia’s urban congressional districts.

So much of Tuesday’s results will be dictated by the ground war in the City of Brotherly Love and the surrounding suburbs. Seven of Pennsylvania’s 19 congressional districts are in Philadelphia or within 60 miles. Obama’s team hopes to win the African-American vote in Philadelphia by a margin of 90 percent to 10 percent (and believe urban backlash to the ABC debate last Wednesday helps enormously).

Obama is also looking for solid support in the suburbs surrounding Philadelphia, which is why Obama hopped aboard a train and gave speeches at and slow-rolled through numerous commuter train stops in the Philly suburbs.

But Obama must out-work and out-muscle the combined forces of Gov. Ed Rendell, a former mayor of Philadelphia, and the city’s current mayor, Michael Nutter. In the most important, vote-rich part of the state, Clinton has powerful allies who know where the votes are, how to mobilize them and how to motivate them.

The key question: how much political capital will Rendell and Nutter spend in Philadelphia when they know the social movement behind Obama is so strong there. Obama has mentioned at every stop since Friday the crowd of 35,000 he drew Friday night in Philadelphia. The message is clear to Rendell and Nutter — push against the tide of support at your own risk because these constituents and their long memories will be around after the presidential parade leaves Pennsylvania.

There’s one other factor to keep an eye on: who won the new registrant wars. About 165,000 new Democratic voters have registered for this primary since January. The Obama campaign says it has conducted a quietly effective registration drive in Philadelphia and intend to spring tens of thousands of new voters on Clinton.

This is a potential problem for Clinton. As her campaign readily acknowledges, turnout models in Pennsylvania are unreliable. The state hasn’t had a truly competitive Democratic presidential primary since 1976. Again, this is where Rendell and Nutter come in. If anyone in Pennsylvania knows who these new voters are and how to reach them in southeastern Pennsylvania, it is these two. The Clinton team would be far more worried about the X-factor of newly registered Democrats if they didn’t have Rendell and Nutter on their side.

One last point about Pennsylvania. Obama’s worked much harder here than he did in Ohio. Person-to-person contact and the Obama aura are still his best assets on the trail and he’s put them to exhaustive use in the closing hours, even coming up here to Scranton last night just to rattle Clinton’s cage in what’s supposed to be — and probably will be — Clinton country to the tune of 75 percent to 25 percent.

Corey O’Brien, a county commissioner in Lackawanna County, told me Obama made the trip to Scranton to prove he was ceding nothing to Clinton and to eat into Clinton’s base. O’Brien said if Obama can move Clinton down to the mid-60s in the Scranton area that will make his margins in the Philly area all the more important. Tactics like this were non-existent for Obama in Ohio and could make the difference between a 10-point or 12-point loss and a 6-point or 8-point loss.

And it is between these numbers, that Super Delegates, contributors and the news media will decide what happened in Pennsylvania, what it says about Obama’s general election prospects and if Clinton has earned her right to credibly continue her bid for the nomination

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Comment by Rowdy Howdy

Rowdy Howdy by gum golly

Welcome to Snowmass, Colorady!

Could Obooma win in Penn?

Might sHrillary be the victor?

What if Ditka was running? Who’d win then?

Da Bears!!

 
Comment by Rowdy Howdy

Happy Monday!

Where’s Obooma?

 
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Comment by Larry Oregon

LOL! Whatever. While Obama talks to 35000 Bill Talks to 50. Saying Obama cant win Penn. Is just as factual as HITLLERY cant win the nomination. NC will wipe out any extra votes HITLLERY may get in Penn.

GO OBAMA!

 
Comment by Benjamin

I can’t understand why Pennsylvanians would vote for a patronizing liar who has the kind of scandalous past as Hillary Clinton does. It’s pathetic that people would go for her after her track record. She also yells and practically screams that she has the experience when she is lying about that as well. I guess if you can yell the loudest and seem the most credible that makes you credible. It’s pretty sad when people are duped by her as so many people in Pennsylvania have been. She is scheduled to appear in court on the Peter Paul suit this Friday. It’s funny how the media has conveniently ignored that fact.

 
Comment by jacksmith

MY FELLOW “BITTER”, STUPID, WORKING CLASS PEOPLE

If you think like Barack Obama, that WORKING CLASS PEOPLE are just a bunch of “BITTER”!, STUPID, PEASANTS, Cash COWS!, and CANNON FODDER. :-(

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary’s than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton.

Best regards

jacksmith… Working Class

p.s. You Might Be An Idiot!

If you don’t know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering…

You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year.

Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don’t die from. And I could go on, and on…

 
Comment by Proudmale

Once again Hillary is showing her strong polling power amoung her base of aging feminists and other 60’s radical groups. For the rest of the campaign, she apparently needs quite a bit of help as displayed by these quotes from the article

“The Clinton team would be far more worried about the X-factor of newly registered Democrats if they didn’t have Rendell and Nutter on their side.”

More importantly “Obama must out-work and out-muscle the combined forces of Gov. Ed Rendell, a former mayor of Philadelphia, and the city’s current mayor, Michael Nutter”. Did anybody else notice that he does not need to spend much time to out muscle Mrs. ClinTOON?

One last quote from the article is important to think about “The message is clear to Rendell and Nutter — push against the tide of support at your own risk because these constituents and their long memories will be around after the presidential parade leaves Pennsylvania.”

That message should equally be clear to both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party. Obama has tapped into a long underfed portion of America that yearns to be represented. If he is not nominated in Denver, I truly hope the Republicans go full scale after these people in their convention in September. Perhaps a McCain Obama ticket would destroy what would be left of the Democratic party.

 
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Comment by Robin54

Seeing that he is out spending Clinton by 3to1 it only goes to show that he can’t put her away and that he can’t win the big states and therefore won’t be president period. I for one along with the registered voters in my house won’t vote for him. I don’t appreciate it now being called a black movement. We are elected

 
Comment by Robin54

Seeing that he is outspending Clinton by 3 to 1 it just goes to show that he can’t put her away, andf he can’t win the big states, therefore he won’t be the president. I do not appreciate it that all of a sudden it is now being called a black movement by Spike Lee and others. We are electing the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. We are not promoting a black movement. I for one will not vote for him neither will the other registered voters in my houshold. Go Hillary.

 
Comment by Molly

GO HILLARY !!!!! - You CAN WIN!!!!!

IF obama was so great - he has spent 8 Million $$$ in PA alone on ads - what a waste of $$$$ -
WHY has he not totally knocked her out - He HAS NOT WON!!!!!!
The obama group seems to think they can steal this primary - well…. obama has NOT WON!

 
Comment by Miami

Obama can also predict a McCain win in November election against Obama as candidate. Having just listened to Rush Limbaugh, not usually one of my favorite talk shows, Rush pointed out that Obama lost the popular vote in New York, California, Massachusetts, Ohio, Texas, Florida (not to mention New Jersey, Michigan, Tennessee, Arkansas, etc) — and now projected to lose in Pennsylvania. So Rush is tickled pink. That puts McCain and the Repubs sitting pretty in November. Mr. Dean, if you would have counted our votes in Florida and Michigan to begin with, the great inflated air balloon of Barack Obama around the USA would have been punctured and exploded by February. Instead, you let it fly, emitting blasts of hot air and exhaust across the nation and now you find it all aflame and ready to crash like the Hindenburg.

Mr. Dean, that’s what happens when you try to silence the voice of the Sovereign people of the United States and try to substitute the will the Party and the Superdelegates.

 
Comment by Charlie

Hillary is going to win big in PA! That’s my prediction. Who am I? Why would my prediction be valid? If a person/idiot like DICK Morris can actually be on a channel that calls itself “fair and balanced” then my opinion should be really important. Let’s get the 90’s back! PEACE AND PROSPERITY! Those two words take care of all of America’s concerns. DICK is very bitter. Was he fired by President Clinton?

 
Comment by f u obama

Barack Hussien Obama threw michelle on the dough ,,,facing down ,,,,

so he is baking some gorrilla face cookies,,,,,,,,,,yum,,yum ,,,,,i am proud of my country for the first time

 
Comment by etronicenterprises

Seems pretty interesting, looks like Obama’s got his work cut out for himself.

While I’m here, I was also looking at the weekly democratic nominee polls, and it’s almost amazing how Barack Obama came from a 28% deficit to taking the lead over Hilary Clinton just weeks before the democratic caucus.

What do you think of that?

Tell me more at ObamaChoice.com

 
Comment by NEOCRAT NEOCON NATION

HILLARY PROMISES TO BOMB IRAN
on MSNBC Keith Oberman 4-21-08

NUKE EM
NUKE EM GOOD

 
Comment by frank tells

I WANT TO FIX HILLARY CLINTON FOR STAYING WITH BILL WHEN SHE SHOULD HAVE DIVORCED HIM OVER:
1. HIS ANTIMASTURBATION
2. HIS CHEATING ADULTERY
ALSO IM AGAINST HER NOT LISTENING TO ME ABOUT VOTING AGAINST THE ANTI POKER BILL (PHONE CALLS, LETTERS) AND RECEIVING FUNDING FROM HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES WHEN THEY ARE ALREADY OVERCHARGING AND AGE DISCRIMINATING. I ALSO BELIEVE LIKE JOE LIEBERMAN THAT BILL CLINTON SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED AFTER ILLEGALLY CHEATING ON HIS WIFE.

 
Comment by Beverly

I’m so glad that there was a great turn out in Penn. Congrats to you Hillary we all knew you could do it.

 
Comment by Diane in DC

Well, Hillary was underestimated again. She won’t be able to win however. Here’s my prediction: Obama picks Wesley Clark as a running mate (I predicted that BEFORE the fictional article from the West Wing writer).

 
Comment by Alice

This democratic nomination is not as complicated as everyone is making it. It’s real simple. Senator Obama would NEVER be in the lead with delegates had the good people of America known in the early primaries his relationship with the Reverend Wright , and Bill Ayers. Not to mention how he easily fumbles for words when asked about the relationships, and his insensitive comments regarding the church and gun statement. There is to much at risk to take a chance and the proud Americans in Pennsylvania sent a loud and clear message to their neighbors for the upcoming primaries.

 
Comment by Valentin Vasilescu

Better you have to know that Romania was an important link in business of sclavery. If you are interested who was responsible for tragedy of Darfur/Sudan ( EU embargo 1994/165/CFSP), Sierra Leone, Rwanda, DR.Congo read the documents of my page : http://www.myspace.com/val2002
I was in jail because I declasified the doccuments. May be it worth. But the extermination regime of Romanian authorities in my case is sclavery also.
Best regards,
Valentin Vasilescu
http://www.cdep.ro/pls/parlam/structura.mp?idm=315&cam=2&leg=2000&pag=0&idl=2

 
Comment by tj

Clinton is using Cheating math! Even a 5 yr. old knows that changing the rules in the middle of the game is cheating. Clinton and Obama both agreed and signed the D&C agreement that Michigan and Florida would not count. Clinton is on tape in Feb. saying just that. The media should call what she is doing what it really is,CHEATING! Obama is playing by the rules! Give him credit for that! Fair and square he has won!

 
Comment by American Woman

Of course she has earned the right to continue…she earned that right when she put her name on the ballot. Her win was Great..her VICTORY speach was inspirational and her supporters love her. Why would she even think of pulling out remember Obama cannot win with the delegates won either..so it will be up the super’s.

 
Comment by 4MYCOUNTRY

TODAY, THE DNC STRUCK A “MONEY DEAL” WITH OBAMA. THIS JUST MIGHT ASSURE HIM THE VOTES OF THE SUPER-DELEGATES. WE NEED TO GET RID OF DEAN, PELOSI, REID, KENNEDY AND KERRY.

HOW SAD FOR ALL AMERICANS. OUR VOTES DON’T MATTER — MONEY DOES!

WE NEED TO CLEAN OUT OUR WHITE HOUSE. WE NEED NEW REPRESENTATIVES FOR ALL 50 STATES! THINK BEFORE YOU VOTE FOR SENATORS AND CONGRESS MEMBERS.

VOTE HILLARY 2008!

 
Comment by lllhoffman

this message for obs,hills, tuna pelosi and all of you extremist lefties, Birkenstock wearing, tree hugging cold bleeding heart iberal democrat!!!is an extremist lefty, Birkenstock wearing, tree hugging cold bleeding heart liberal democrats!!!
WAKE UP AMERICA!!! ( sorry mc texas if I changed your title & thank you so much)
Bet you stand up and say HELL YEAH! After you read this: YES I DID!!!
I don’t think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers the only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things as like United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment = and Miss Black America
I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big campfires
I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not to some governmental stooge with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away = to crack addicts for squiting out babies. Guns do not make you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car but no one is trying to ban the car you’re driving to the baseball game or = the baseball bats
I believe they are called Boy Scouts for a reason, = that s why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl S couts!
try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine
White Entertainment Television or Miss White America and see what happens. Jessie Jackson, good ole boy Louis Farakhan, Al Sharpton will be knocking and = breaking down your door
I have the right NOT to be tolerant of others because they are diferent, weird or tick me off. When 70% + of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70%+ of the population is black that is not racial profiling, it is the law of statistics
I know what sex is and there are not varying degrees of it. = if I received sex from one of my subordinates in my office, it wouldn’t be a = a private matter or my personal business. I would be FIRED immediately!
I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or I ‘m in a hotel room, you must do it in ENGLISH! = as a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen you should have to speak = ENGLISH!!!

My father and grandfather should have not died in vain so you can = leave your countries you were born in to come over to AMERICA and disrespect ours. I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you threaten them
after they tell you to STOP! If you can not understand the word FREEZE OR STOP in ENGLISH, see above lines.
I feel much safer letting a machine with no political affiliation & recount votes if needed. I know what the definition of LYING is. I don’t think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open so you can open a hotel, trinket store or any business.
We did not come to the aid of foreign countries and risk our lives in wars, died, humiliated, spit on, experimented on, tortured and beheaded to defend their freedoms while we play fair according to our Constitution.
So that decades later they could go to AMERICA and tell us that our Constitution is a = living document and open to their own interpretations. I don’t hate the rich, I don’t pity the poor, I know wrestling is fake but so are movies, and television and that doesn’t stop you from watching them. I believe a self righteous liberal or conservatives with a cause is more dangerous than HELL’S ANGEL with an attitude.
I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that’s better and put your name on the building. Ask your buddy that invented the I internet to help you.
it doesn’t take a village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid and smack his/her little ass if necessary and after you say NO!
i think tatoos are fine if you want them, but please don’t pretend they are political statement. Please stay home until that new lip ring heals, I don’t want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French fries.
I am sick of POLITICAL CORRECTNESS and all of the suck ups that go along with it (extremist lefty, Birkenstock wearing, tree hugging cold bleeding heart iberal democrat!!!is an extremist lefty, Birkenstock wearing, tree hugging cold bleeding heart liberal democrat!!!
I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa so how can they be AFRICAN AMERICANS??? besides, Africa is a continent. I don’a go around saying I am a European American, because my great, great, great, great, great, great Grandfather was from Europe. I am very proud to be an AMERICAN, WAS BORN AND WILL DIE HERE IN my country AMERICA and nowhere else and if you don’t like my point of view, TOUGH!!! GET OVER IT!!! OR GO BACK TO YOUR BELOVED COUNTRY AFRICA, whatever hole you came from. IN GOD WE TRUST, if you don’t like it don’t spend you money!!! [because it is written on every piece that you have!]
WAKE UP AMERICA, SEND THIS TO ALL WHILE YOU CAN STILL DO IT FOR FREE AND WHILE YOU STILL HAVE A COUNTRY TO WAKE UP TO !!!

 
Comment by barbara / NEW JERSEY

I blame ALL TV NEWS COMENTATORS for the Rev Wright actions by your constant reviewing of the same issues. Don’t give him any reconition for free and he will go away. Or is it that you want Clinton to win and do an unfair number on Obama

 
Comment by lllhoffman

this message for obs,hills, tuna pelosi and all of you extremist lefties, Birkenstock wearing, tree hugging cold bleeding heart iberal democrat!!!is an extremist lefty, Birkenstock wearing, tree hugging cold bleeding heart liberal democrats!!!
WAKE UP AMERICA!!! ( sorry mc texas if I changed your title & thank you so much)
Bet you stand up and say HELL YEAH! After you read this: YES I DID!!!
I don’t think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers the only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things as like United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment = and Miss Black America
I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big campfires
I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not to some governmental stooge with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away = to crack addicts for squiting out babies. Guns do not make you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car but no one is trying to ban the car you’re driving to the baseball game or = the baseball bats
I believe they are called Boy Scouts for a reason, = that s why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl S couts!
try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine
White Entertainment Television or Miss White America and see what happens. Jessie Jackson, good ole boy Louis Farakhan, Al Sharpton will be knocking and = breaking down your door
I have the right NOT to be tolerant of others because they are diferent, weird or tick me off. When 70% + of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70%+ of the population is black that is not racial profiling, it is the law of statistics
I know what sex is and there are not varying degrees of it. = if I received sex from one of my subordinates in my office, it wouldn’t be a = a private matter or my personal business. I would be FIRED immediately!
I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or I ‘m in a hotel room, you must do it in ENGLISH! = as a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen you should have to speak = ENGLISH!!!
My father and grandfather should have not died in vain so you can = leave your countries you were born in to come over to AMERICA and disrespect ours. I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you threaten them
after they tell you to STOP! If you can not understand the word FREEZE OR STOP in ENGLISH, see above lines.
I feel much safer letting a machine with no political affiliation & recount votes if needed. I know what the definition of LYING is. I don’t think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open so you can open a hotel, trinket store or any business.
We did not come to the aid of foreign countries and risk our lives in wars, died, humiliated, spit on, experimented on, tortured and beheaded to defend their freedoms while we play fair according to our Constitution.
So that decades later they could go to AMERICA and tell us that our Constitution is a = living document and open to their own interpretations. I don’t hate the rich, I don’t pity the poor, I know wrestling is fake but so are movies, and television and that doesn’t stop you from watching them. I believe a self righteous liberal or conservatives with a cause is more dangerous than HELL’S ANGEL with an attitude.
I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that’s better and put your name on the building. Ask your buddy that invented the I internet to help you.
it doesn’t take a village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid and smack his/her little ass if necessary and after you say NO!
i think tatoos are fine if you want them, but please don’t pretend they are political statement. Please stay home until that new lip ring heals, I don’t want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French fries. I am sick of POLITICAL CORRECTNESS and all of the suck ups that go along with it (extremist lefty, Birkenstock wearing, tree hugging cold bleeding heart iberal democrat!!!is an extremist lefty, Birkenstock wearing, tree hugging cold bleeding heart liberal democrat!!!
I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa so how can they be AFRICAN AMERICANS??? besides, Africa is a continent. I don’a go around saying I am a European American, because my great, great, great, great, great, great Grandfather was from Europe. I am very proud to be an AMERICAN, WAS BORN AND WILL DIE HERE IN my country AMERICA and nowhere else and if you don’t like my point of view, TOUGH!!! GET OVER IT!!! OR GO BACK TO YOUR BELOVED COUNTRY AFRICA, whatever hole you came from. IN GOD WE TRUST, if you don’t like it don’t spend you money!!! [because it is written on every piece that you have!]
WAKE UP AMERICA, SEND THIS TO ALL WHILE YOU CAN STILL DO IT FOR FREE AND WHILE YOU STILL HAVE A COUNTRY TO WAKE UP TO !!!

 
Comment by CAROLINA

PELOSI, DEAN, REID, KENNEDY AND KERRY HAVE DESTROYED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. WE HAVE 50 STATES — NOT 48. I REALIZE PELOSI WANTS TO BE THE FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT BUT SHE SHOULD NOT DESTROY THE PARTY IN THE PROCESS!

Obama has had plenty of opportunities, during this race, AND during the past 20 years, to do what he did on April 29, but Rev. Wright had never put Obama down before. That made him willing to turn against the pastor, who — a few weeks ago Obama said that he could never turn from. Obama will say anything to get what he wants.

Because he has now disrespected Obama, Obama is now willing to confront Wright’s horrible remarks — one by one. HE SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS AT LEAST A YEAR AGO! TOO LITTLE — TOO LATE.

Obama listened to and approved of Wright for 20 years. It’s impossible to believe that he never heard Wright’s radical rants. Obama is not that stupid. This is the very philosophy of the church that he has attended for years. If he has that much “blindness” on something as important as foundational philosophical beliefs of his own church, why would he think he could deal with crafty foreign leaders and run our country?

If you listen to Michelle Obama, it certainly sounds like she has heard and believed the teachings against America, that have been preached by her pastor. Don’t forget Obama’s ties to Ayers, Rezko, Farrakhan, Malcolm X, the Black Panthers, and many other anti-Americans and terrorists.

May God help us to have the grace and love to do what s right for our country — no matter what our skin color. Race is a factor — we are all members of the Human Race!

Hillary or McCain!

 
Comment by B positive

OBAMA IN CHURCH WHEN THE HATE SPEECH WAS MADE!!!

Obama’s book, “Dreams of My Father,” came out after 9/11/2001… in it he says:
“While the boys seated next to ME were doodling in their church bulletin
Reverend Wright spoke on Sharpsville and Hiroshima!”

Go to THE END of this Youtube video (8:00 min) and hear Obama’s words from his bookand how they match Wright’s hate speech on Hiroshima and Sharpsville in the video. It is proof that he has been present during a Wright hate speech!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI77cU3jsFs

This is proof he was there during a Pastor Wright hate speech! Obama lied!!!

 
Comment by B positive

OBAMA IN CHURCH WHEN THE HATE SPEECH WAS MADE!!!

Obama’s book, “Dreams of My Father,” came out after 9/11/2001… in it he says:
“While the boys seated next to ME were doodling in their church bulletin
Reverend Wright spoke on Sharpsville and Hiroshima!”

Go to THE END of this Youtube video (8:00 min) and hear Obama’s words from his book
and how they match Wright’s hate speech on Hiroshima and Sharpsville in the video.
It is proof that he has been present during a Wright hate speech!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI77cU3jsFs

This is proof he was there during a Pastor Wright hate speech! Obama lied!!!

 
Comment by Terry

HELP! The weakness in Obama is in his wife. Like Bush/Chaney, she tells us what she thinks, “we need to know.” She represents Rev. Wright’s views and like most moms, was probably present during his tantrum sermons. Going from the extreme Right (Bush) to the extreme Left (Obama) will be an unwise gamble for our Country. With Hillary we know what we will get; behind door marked Obama (hope and risk), “you just never know what you are going to get.”
Wake-up America

 
Comment by goodtimepolitics

Obama has more problems: He is now using old politics that he said that he wanted to do away with in Washington. Plus he is good at saying he said something that he didn’t say! :) ending a court consent decree designed to end mob influence isn’t such a good idea. With friends like William Ayers and now he wants to end a oversight board that keeps gangster out of teamsters! That starting to worry this American!

http://goodtimepolitics.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/obama-told-teamsters-union-he-would-end-a-court-consent-decree-designed-to-end-mob-influence/

 
Comment by tj

The rules of how to win the nomination were set in place before the race began and by the rules,Obama has won! What the Clinton’s are trying to do is cheat the system and the media is letting them do this! Call it what it is Cheating! I think that lieing is much worse than attacking Obama on something someone else has done! Quilt by association is only done by the media! In the real world it would never happen because if it did no one would have family,much less friends! Shame on the media! you all should hang you heads in shame!

 
Comment by sherri

Just want to comment on what I just heard on fox news. the obama camp says, they have the popular vote…no they don’t, this race is so close and not everyone has voted. Michigan and Flordia. I don’t know why they’re claiming victory, it’s not over. I will never vote obama.. again, I still don’t trust him, I will not vote for him and many people I know won’t vote for him. where do you get all these polls saying people trust him. no one I know in the bay area trusts him. he’s a liar and he’s a radical racist. I don’t know why I care, McCain will win. he’s got my vote if it’s not hillary.

 

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