A US Army Historian says that the Bush Administration had NO plans for the war in Iraq.

Bush abused his power using our anger over 911 to get support to go in to Iraq. Knowing full well that Iraq had nothing to do with 911, Bush used Bad intellgience on the non-existent WMDs to sell us on the War.

If you want to see more of this kind of behavior from our elected officials, go ahead and vote for McCain.

Wesley Clark needs to take a closer look at Obama’s “war” and “executive” experience. There is none, whatsoever.

I, do not see anything wrong with, what Gen.Clark said regarding Mr. McCain`s war record. He is not saying that it should not be respected, just that is not a qualification to be POTUS. By the way, why is those on the Right foaming in the mouth regarding what Gen. Clark said, you guys have a very short memory remember how John Kerry got swift boated! well as they say what goes around comes around. `

It’s not just the fact that McCain’s plane was shot down, resulting in McCain spending 5 years in a prison camp … it’s the fact that McCain, being the son of an Admiral, could have gotten early release … but, being a man of ‘real character’, McCain chose to spend addition years as a prisoner, in order to be fair to his fellow prisoners. This depth of character, honor, and commitment to America is what separates John McCain by a country mile from weak men, who are all talk, like Barrack Obama, or Wesley Clark.

McCain has more purple hearts than Obama has years in the Senate. Plus a silver star, bronze star and distinguished flying cross. I realise than barry and the mob need to attack McCain on this since barry has zero cred here but this could backfire big time attacking an American War hero.

If any of the “Truth Squad” dismiss what Clark said as untrue, then my first question to them would be “Do you think you should be President of the United States.” As disrespectful as Clark’s comments were, he is right that combat experience and extreme bravery does not in itself equal a right to the presidency.

It’s. sad to watch a man, who had a medicore career in the service,having received his top rank under the Clinton administration, stoop to such a low level. Little Mr. Clark is no qualified to to hold McCain’s shorts. I truely do believe his problem is that as a “General” he demanded and received what he wanted from his troops. But now that he is civilian nobody knows who he is or let alone gives a damn. Tough on the ego. Worst yet he thinks Billy and Hilly will be his savior. Little does he realize he’s nothing more than a piece of fecal matter on thiir shoes that willbe scraped off, at their convenience.

A little ego can cause a lot of trouble, but a large one, like Clarks can be threating.

Sorry, the little boy is “LOSSER:.

It is an excellent point by General Clark. McCain may not be fit to command and being a POW can hardly count as presidential experience. There is also proof that he actually collaborated with the enemy and gave out military positions. If Obama didn’t have a big enough lead already, I’d say go after McCain with this info.

I didn’t see W. Clark’s interview but I don’t the quotes here are anything to get upset about. In fact, in a cool headed way, I’d agree with his statements. Getting shot down from a plane has nothing to do with being qualified for ANYTHING other having the luck to survive such a horrible affair. As far as understanding ones opponent and making sound judgements, well that’s obvious. What seems to be at play here is whether or not these very ‘patriotic’ and militaristic deeds play into the way McCain would like to spin them as presidential qualifications.

McCain is a Republican. The Republicans got us into this economic mess by putting Big Business profits ahead of science, the environment, humanitarianism, and all the other things that separate Mankind from reptiles.

If you want four more years of plummeting economy, McCain is the man to give it to you.

I don’t understand why this is controversial.

The Senators most important war decision – going to Iraq and ignoring alQaeda – was an unmitigated disaster.

Because he doesn’t understand war. He’s not made large tactical or strategic decisions.

So all prisoners of war are suited to be commander-in-chief? Why?

I hope the truth squad works. As an Obama supporter and an admirer of Wesley Clark, my heart sank to hear that O & C would stoop to such an attack on John McCain. Whatever one’s political views, McCain should be honored for the hero that he is–the genuine article. See the NY Times today for a heart-wrenching story of what malicious destructiveness the 2004 “Swiftboaters” against Kerry brought to the reputations and memories of the heroic Swift Boat sailors in Vietnam. To be sure, such smears are as American as apple pie, but they need to be exposed for the malignancy they are. When did we decide that “opposing” a political opponent is not enough, one must also “destroy” him/her?
Disappointed in Chicago

So McCain was simply “riding” in a carrier-based fighter jet. I wondered if he was served peanuts, too

I can hear the Left screaming “Swiftboating!” already. Yeehaw. Go get ‘em boys … it’s about time McCain and his guys starting cleaning a few liberal clocks.

Wesley Clark is a traitor and should be recalled and court martialed.

Obama has no credentials to be the President, look at his money laundering to get to the 200 million he has in the banks, it all came from foreign accounts. Obama is a fraud and liar that has a yellow streak up his back two feet wide.

Boo hoo, John McCain. All’s fair in love and politics. It’s a NASTY and MEAN business, and ALL politicians lie and cheat……period.

Boo hoo, John McCain. Get over yourself. All’s fair in love and politics……..it’s a MEAN and NASTY business. ALL politicians lie and cheat…..period. ANY part of your life is subject to commentary.

As you folks in the FOX FAN character assassination squad ramp up, be sure to note that former NATO Supreme Allied Commander Wesley Clark made the comments, not Sen. Obama.

McCain’s patriotism may be a mile wide and an inch deep. Wave the flag and tout an honorable war record while voting against a new GI Bill for America’s servicemen doesn’t spell P-A-T-R-I-O-T to me. Too many Americans confuse patriotism with war. The fact is, as Eisenhower famously pointed out, sometimes a more honest form of patriotism is guarding against the desire of some to promote American Imperialism and the vast Military-Industrial Complex.

John
Cut Bank, Montana

“it’s a matter of understanding risk. It’s a matter of gauging your opponents and it’s a matter of being held accountable. John McCain’s never done any of that in his official positions.”

That is an opinion that when used on the candidate former Gen. Clarke supports, shows that he actually supports the weaker candidate, based on his own statement, and it reveals that he clearly does so for partisan reasons. His credibility was already shot with his biased politics, and this just further devalues his opinions.

“That large squadron in the Navy that he commanded — that wasn’t a wartime squadron. He hasn’t been there and ordered the bombs to fall.”

Again, the point is irrelevant. His Obama has no leadership experience in war-time or peace-time, therefore, McCain is still the more qualified.

“I don’t think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president.”

No, it doesn’t. But what McCain went through builds more character than anything Obama has ever done, or will ever do. McCain has demonstrated a strong belief in serving his country out of duty. What has Obama done? Nothing. Obama running for the Presidency just shows a strong belief in personal ambition, nothing more. Especially considering Obama has virtually zero accomplishments during his short tenure in public office.

Obama is a joke.

And who can forget this: “I don’t think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president.”

OK…

In 2000, I was not just a McCain supporter but a campaign contributor. At the time I was disheartened by his tepid response to incredibly vile attacks on his family from Bush operatives during the primary. I was amazed when McCain through his support to Bush after that.

Now, retired Gen. Wesley Clark, valedictorian of his class at West Point, Rhodes Scholar, and former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO makes a number of factual statements and gives his apparently sincere but somewhat blunt assessment of the candidate’s qualifications to fulfill what would be his presidential duties if elected, and McCain’s handlers are demanding a repudiation of Clark’s entirely pertinent comments?

He rolled over when Bush attacked his family — but now he whines when a more experienced military man gives him a less than stellar-assessment of his resume?

How pathetic.

Clark commanded NATO during the post-Soviet threat. That means his toughest command decision was what brand of coffee to buy at the Commissary. Clark is a putz who has as much credibility as Rosie O’Donnell.

Weasel Clark seldom gets anything right and it is obvious that he is sucking up for some big shot position in an Obama administration – sucking up clearly worked for his military career as there is no other obvious justification for his rise to General. HOWEVER, on this score he did get it right. Given McCain’s POW history and his family influence in the Navy, it is highly unlikely that he was ever held truly accountable for his Navy performance so his apparent success in the Navy may or may not be indicative of true leadership talent. And, as politically incorrect as it may sound, being a POW does not qualify one for anything unrelated to POWs; it certainly does not give him any special qualification to be President. There were a lot of POWs in Viet Nam and I don’t see the rest of them trying to parlay that unfortunate experience into a career at the highest level of government. We saw with Mac Cleland that injuring oneself in Viet Nam offered nothing beyond sympathy to enhance his political leadership qualifications.

For those who say that the POW experience enhances character, take a look at how loyal McCain was to his first wife.

Apparently the gloves are off. McCain, who promised a campaign free of gutter tactics, and now trailing in the polls, tells us that Obama can’t be trusted. Clark points out that getting shot down in an airplane and enduring years of suffering in a prison camp are not necessarily the criteria we use to select the leader of the free world. What’s next? Do we trot out a bevy of old soldiers and launch a swift boat attack on a four star general? The country is in a funk, with just about anything that COULD go wrong doing exactly that. What a refreshing change it would be to hear the issues, ONLY the issues, discussed. But while party-line obedience trumps thoughtful weighing of facts we’ll remain mired in the mess. Eisenhower’s presidential campaign hinged on the mantra, “It’s time for a change”. He was right.

Oh, boy, another swiftboat group – doesn’t the name remind you of Big Brother, and I’m not talking about the game show? After all, Wesley Clark was only giving his opinion. Apparently John McCain can’t stand up to sticks and stones, despite his years as a P.O.W. (And what that has to do with whether he’s qualified to run the country, I don’t know.)

Every service man and woman knows that being a POW bares a great deal of respect, but we also have to hedge that respect with truth. The truth is that John McCain was tortured for five years, he was physically and mentally damaged in this ordeal and one cannot understand this ordeal unless they have personally gone through it. No one has the right to minimize this ordeal. However, it does not qualify someone to be president, senator or congressperson. Those qualifications are set forth in the constitution and they don’t include a statement that you must have been a POW to serve as President. As an active duty service member, I do not confuse the requirements, I do not vote with sympathy, I do not support a man who will not stand up for veterans and veterans issues, and I most assuredly will not support a man who wants to continue wars for the sake of continuing a war. I do not vote for the man soley based on his military experience or lack of it, we as a nation have to…must! vote for the person best qualified to lead the nation. And it isn’t John McCain.

First, it was not a “Clark hit.”

Gen. Clark responded directly to a question by Bob Scheiffer.

It’s nonsensical to think or believe that flying a military aircraft in combat, or being shot down in one, somehow is a qualification for the presidency or makes an individual better qualified to be the president. The question is ridiculous. And Clark’s response dismisses it appropriately.

George W. Bush was a fully qualified military jet fighter pilot (though never shot down) & has proven himself to be the most thoroughly unqualified president in the 232 year history of the USA. The 2 circumstances are not related in any way.

Or, perhaps they are. “No more fighter pilots as president!” There’s a logical conclusion.

If you look at John McCain’s temprement all the way back to high school, he is manifestly unfit for command. He is arrogant, selfish, and unstable.

Just look at the actual record of his behavior. That will tell the TRUTH.

It’s pretty funny that right wingers are complaining about all this, since it was Bush Republicans who first spread these attacks in 2000.

General Clark said nothing wrong.

McCain constantly brings up his “I was a Prisoner of War!” schtick. Even when inappropriate, he brings it up.

The fact is that being a POW does not make one qualified for being president. Military service does not make one qualified. Enough of the warmongers. Enough of this crazy old nut pretending he’s fit to run the country. He’s obviously brain-damaged and a all around jerk.

Wesley Clark is in my opinion and obvious idiot. How he became a general is beyound comprehension, he probably sucked up so badly to the brass that his lips are gone. Come on, Wesley, let’s see how well you do in a fighter jet. You probably couldn’t fly your own bicycle.

Wes Clark did not question John McCains’s military service, nor did he question his honor, patriotism, bravery, dedication, nor even his ability to lead the country. His comments relate only to McCain’s qualifications in Foreign policy based specifically and solely on that military experience. Would I be qualified to be the CEO of GM because I once survived a car crash? I might well be qualified, but that wouldn’t be the reason.

One wonder how Clark ever became a general. He must have sucked up till his nose got too brown. Wesley, get in a fighter jet and let’s see how well you do. Sure glad I wasn’t in the military when you were. Nato commander?? Whoa, no wonder Nato is as screwed up as it is.

General Clark is a disgrace to the uniform. To attack a fellow service member who spent five years in a POW camp is incomprehensible to those of us who have served our country. Even if you disagree with Senator McCain’s Politics there are traditions and standards that those in the armed services of our great country do not breach. Although we have always had “I will do anything for power” people like Clark (I cannot bring myself to use General with his name more than once), this takes the cake. Secondly, to attempt to dress up commentary supporting Barrack Obama as a “news story” is just pathetic. When will those of you in the media learn that the vast majority of Americans want facts reported that they can draw their own conclusions from? We really are smart enough to make up our own minds based on fact and smart enough to see through shallow media agendas aimed at influencing people to see things their way. In the spirit of disclosure, I am a Republican. I do not see eye to eye with Senator McCain on every issue but at least I know where we differ because he has a record and has articulated those positions for years. Finally, despite any differences of opinion I may have with Senator McCain, I respect his service and know that his service makes him more qualified than Senator Obama to be Commander In Chief.

Let’s see…John McCain is a war veteran, POW who had to make life and death decisions in an instant. Barry Sotero, I’m sorry, Barack Obama doesn’t like to wear a pin of the American flag on our national Independence Day. let’s see….who do I place more confidence in to protect me and my children….

Someone above suggested that Gen. Clark had no qualifications to become a general…

Yet, from his time at West Point, it was clear that Clark was targeted as someone with leadership potential. He was chosen valedictorian of his class while at West Point. He became a Rhodes Scholar. He went to the Ranger School, was promoted to captain, and became a commander in the 82nd Airborne.

In Vietnam, he was shot four times with an AK-47 by a VC soldier. Though wounded, he continued shouting orders to his men, who counterattacked and defeated the attackers.

That’s just up through 1970…

I wonder how many of the arm chair warriors here have been shot four times by an AK-47 or commanded men in combat?

Wesley Clark is nothing more than a hired gun for the Dems

Gen. Wesley Clark has been bought by the Dems ever since he was removed as the Supreme Allied Commander of the NATO led forces in the Bosnian conflict.

He’s been using his military and political linkages to try and secure contracts for his buddies at Acxiom. Check out his linkages with Acxiom and Entrust and other “lobbying” activities. A true Washington insider if there ever was one. He sat on the board for Acxiom and was instrumental in orchestrating several meetings with political operatives inside Washington during that time and I’m sure is lobbying now for a role in Obama’s cabinet…and he has the audacity to paint McCain as not worthy to hold office? Get Real!

So Clark doesn’t think military experience makes you qualified to be president, he’s right….but didn’t Wesley Clark try to run for president a few years ago touting HIS military experience????????? (hypocrit)

So Wes, did it work out for you heading NATO under President Clinton??? Oh wait, that’s right it didn’t. You “resigned”.

I guess you kinda have to do silly things like form ‘Truth Squads’ when your stances on the Iraq War, tax cuts for the ultra wealthy, and sweetheart drilling deals for oil companies really don’t speak to the will of the American people. I foresee a long and slow train of these meaningless gimmicks coming from the McCain camp. I think that this actually works in Obama’s favor: the American people will have a collective chuckle when they learn of the Republicans are forming a ‘Truth Squad’… I know I did.

Why is it that a big stink is being made over Clark’s personal opinion? It’s totally rediculous to say that Clark attacked McCain’s military credentials! Clark’s statement was sensible and true. Just because he was a war hero does not make him or anyone else for that matter qualifed to be President of the US. If so, then what you are saying is that every soldier who has served in the military or is currently serving in the military is qualifed to run the country? Lastly, Obama should not denounce Clark for his opinion. Although I am sure that Fox and it’s Republican snobs feel that Obama should denounce anyone who has an opinon towards McCain–such losers, is it because your behind in the polls?

Rockford, IL

Clark is not worthy of wiping the sweat off Senator John McCain’s back side. Clark is a paid professional prostitute of unworthy charactor. He is jocking for a high paying position (where he will not have to produce or achieve any goals) in Washington. Senator McCain exceeded any achievements Clark or BH Obama(formally Barry) could every hope between the middle of June 1968 and July 4, 1968.

As Senator McCain recorded in his book, “Faith Of My Fathers”, “I wanted to say yes. I badly wanted to go home. I was tired and sick, and despite my bad attitude, I was often afraid. But I couldn’t keep from my own counsel the knowledge of how my release would affect my father, and my fellow prisoners. I knew what the Vietnamese hoped to gain from my release.”

This man, John McCain, will make desisions good for the USA.

It pains me that somebody, probably multiple somebodies, actually gave the go-ahead to call this group the “Truth Squad”. I am blown away that something so comically orwellian could make it past all the censors. “Is your patriotism in question? Don’t worry, the Truth Squad will sort things out!”

Comment by Dorian
June 30th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
It pains me that somebody, probably multiple somebodies, actually gave the go-ahead to call this group the “Truth Squad”. I am blown away that something so comically orwellian could make it past all the censors. “Is your patriotism in question? Don’t worry, the Truth Squad will sort things out!”
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WE COULD CHANGE IT TO HOPE AND CHANGE TO RUN OUT OF GAS FOR SQUAD.

Republican Truth Squad, Bwahahahahahahah!

I think that the comments by Clark were planned by BO’s campaignd to get BO (body oder) to defend McCain so he would BO would look good in defending McCain. It’spart of the fake BO. He can’t be trusted!

How ridiculous! McCain is so much more qualified to be President than BO ( new name — BODY ODER) he stinks on everything! Two years in the Senate and then community service to the South side of Chicago?! (Only blacks live there!) I was listening to a group of black talking yesterday. They said they were voting for Obama because they would get more from him because he’s black and would represent them. Do I need to say more?!!

Yes Lee, McCain is such an awesome man of character! And BO?! What is he except an inexperiencd black/white politician pretending he’s not a typical politician.

If all you Dems are thinking there is nothing wrong with what Clark Said, then this whole stinking mob of libs is crazy.

You know BO told him to say that.

He always has some excuse for everything, I didnt know him, I wouldnt have done that, you have to understand and on and on and on and on and on. Where he stops no one knows…………………

It is election time and Wesley the Ring Knocking worm, is out of the closet again. Wesley Clark is such an obvious quizllng. If he had demonstrated this attitude in a firefight he might well have been fragged. What a disgusting representation of a military officer.
His cheap shots on McCain are so unwarranted. McCain has far more government experience then Obama and it is amazing that pinhead Clark even opens his mouth to expose the lack of real experience Obama has. Just what experience does this Bi-racial (White mother Black father) candidate from Hawaii have that qualifies him to be POTUS?
Disregarding the POW experience, McCain has more experience in governing in his little finger then Obama has in his entire being. Keep sucking up Clark you might get the limo drivers job, something you might able to handle.

Makes you wonder about the former General’s service, his duty and his patriotism. It is pretty obviious that Clark has no leadership skills whatsoever. I wonder if the Point can withdraw his dipoloma for stupidity?

Any one know anything about what Obama stands for? I’m certain I haven’t heard anything of substance from him or his camp on any major issue so far in this campaign. I have heard him cry about not attacking his wife, about not attacking his patriotism, and about being raised by two women, but not a thing about the conditions in the US at the moment. Maybe I missed it…someone please enlighten me.

It is time to get the dirt on the street about Wes Clark, last I checked, NATO is not a country.

Obama and Clark are just playing good cop, bad cop. Do they really think the american
people are so dumb that they can’t figure that out.

It’s one thing when you get shot in the BUTT like John Carry. And think you need a purple heart for it. But John McCain was a POW. He went to fight for his country.
Do you all dumb A@# think he had a “PARTY” being a POW. You Obama people make me sick. BUY THE WAY THE DEMS. HAVE HAD CONTROL AND WHAT IN THE BLANK HAVE THEY DONE TO LOWER THE GAS PRICES. NOT A BLANK THING!!!!!! You obama supporter’s are so dumb. YOU just don’t get it. WE NEED LOWER “GAS”!!!! McCain is the only one willing to do anything about it.

I can’t believe all the idiocy here. I wonder how many of these knotheads were even in the service. NOT OBAMA. THE CHICKEN THAT HE IS. THE LIAR WITH LIARS IN HIS CAMP. The UNAMERICAN. Clark always was a fool and a moron. All this defense of him is garbage.

haha i always vote for the best candidate and in 2008 the dmeocrat candidate is the worst one of the last century on the issue of maccains government experience alone id vote for him , guess obama has diluded visions of grandure believing with his vast mere two years experience of being a poloticain that makes him qualified to run america as its president . guess obama doesnt feel the need to proudly display the flag lapel pin symbolic of the people whom pay his inflated salary , guess his wife ? forgets that she got thru college on grants at taxpayers expense maybe she can simply be proud that their church is so anti- american. obama’s voting record to date is dismal and a disgrace no matter how one looks at it … the ONLY senator to vote for the early realease of dangerous criminals currently incarcerated THE ONLY tax cut he voted for was for tax cuts for the big oil companies and the list goes on and on with this mans stupididty . even going as far as wanting to change the presendatil seal words from “in god we trust ” to change we can believe in also making sure to put his website addy on the seal also .while the people of illinois last year were being raped by the big electric utility company ameren enduring raises in our bills 300% or more , where was obama oh he was off campaigning in other states for a nomination instaed of taking care of business in the state he was elected to serve for . obama is putting alot of effort into cleaning up his image and dispelling what he calls rumours which are more likely merely an inconvieniet truth obama wishes to hide from the american public . for sure a vote for obama will be the most idiotic vote you will place in your lifetime

Nope, sorry you can’t say that.

This is such a strange statement;

“And who can forget this: “I don’t think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president.”

I have no problem with it, he flew, he got shot down, where’s the qualification to be president?

Maybe qualified as a survival coach for some reality show shot in South East Asia, but president?

We’ve seen the results of someone who was unqualified to find oil in West Texas, it seems perhaps a bit more relevant studies than “Yell King” are needed. And who will ever forget that?

Jerry w
boskolives.wordpress.com

Good for McCain. I hope they show and tell BHO’s interview in July of 2004 when he told Russet and others he did not know how he would have voted had he been in the senate for the war vote. He further said he was against the war based on the information. In attempting to explain why Kerry had voted for the war he (BHO) he did not see the intelligence report the senator saw and was only making a judgment on the information he had.

So I guess that means he has the greater judgment because he made a lucky guess to say he would not have voted for a war that is now unpopular. I say lucky guess because he didn’t have the information the others had to use to base their judgment on.

HOW in the heck can he NOW say he was against the war from the beginning and would not have voted for it when he didn’t even have the information the others based their votes on. That is a very self serving monday morning quarterback statement.

Also, how can people say the war is a failure. Can they prove they would not have been an attack against the USA if we hadn’t went to Iraq. You may not want to admit Bush has kept the USA safe but do a little research about all the attacks we had under Clinton’s years in the white house and you will see there were plenty. Of course, Clinton did nothing until he needed to distract the public from his sex scandal.

I think the Obama machine is behind Wes Clark ripping John McCain’s War record…………AND for the record…..Obama said “people will try to paint him as a scary person”……well he is doing a pretty good job of that himself. Obama and Wes Clark and the Obama machine……should scare all Americans. People are now starting to take a good look at Obama, and also the people that he is using to smear McCain………the American people are not STUPID, and are paying close attention. I thought maybe Obama was really Change, well he is nothing but a sneaky elite politician, that wants up to think he is different………..maybe he is, anyone that would use his people to go after a veterans war record……..is not the kind of man I want as President.

Tyesha…

What we are today comes from our thoughts of yesterday, and our present thoughts build our life of tomorrow: Our life is the creation of our mind….