SAN DIEGO — 8 a.m. PDT
As Barack Obama heads to Hawaii for a week-long vacation, its virtually certain he will use this time to pick his running mate (if he hasn’t already). In this decision, the “who” seems less important than the “what.”
I don’t mean to suggest the person isn’t important. Not at all.
What I do mean is that the “what” behind the selection will define the direction of the Obama candidacy as much if not more than the “who.”
By “what” I mean, what is the premise of the campaign at this stage? If the premise is “change” must the running mate personify change? If so, this eliminates a vast array of possible contenders (basically the entire roster of U.S. Senators).
If the premise is not change, what is it? Is it governing to achieve change? If so, must the running mate carry the gravitas, record and rectitude of a wise Washington figure — someone well-versed in legislative dynamics who knows where the bodies are buried and how to curry favor with potentially recalcitrant committee chairs on Capitol Hill? If this is the premise, several other potential running mates are instantly eliminated (basically, all governors and private-sector and retired military types).
What if the premise is neither change nor governing, but leadership in dangerous times? If so, it seems certain the running mate must fulfill a perceived gap in foreign policy and national security experience that many analysts, Democratic strategists and pundits believe to be Obama’s central biographical weakness. If this is the premise, then only a handful of Democrats would appear to fill the bill.
It appears there is no Democrat who would allow Obama to hit all three categories: change, governing and leadership.
[For this discussion, it's obvious millions of Hillary Clinton supporters believe she would do all this and much, much more for Obama. But her Tuesday speaking slot at the Democratic Convention followed by former President Bill Clinton's speech on Wednesday -- just before the vice presidential speech -- assures the convention will not produce an Obama-Clinton ticket. But it may produce some made-for-TV "catharsis."]
In all my conversations with Obama aides, I’ve never detected a sense that they or the candidate accept the premise that Obama MUST address his perceived deficiency in foreign policy and national security experience.
If anything, Obama has rejected this notion — arguing with vigor and conviction that Washington’s “experience” led the nation into a ruinous war in Iraq (with prominent Democrats such as Clinton, Dick Gephardt and even enthusiastic Obama supporter Jay Rockefeller backing the preemptive war).
Obama has also asserted that he’s been ahead of the curve on dealing more intently with Pakistan and trying to find ways to police and secure loose nuclear material. On these three issues, Obama has won crowds and votes by arguing that his “inexperience” helped him see things more clearly and develop better potential solutions. Whether this is true is open to debate. That Obama believes it to be true is not.
I wonder if at this very important moment Obama would suddenly reverse course and acknowledge through his choice of a running mate that yes, indeed, the Beltway bromides about him were always true, that he does lack foreign policy and national security experience and that he needs a crutch to compensate for this suddenly discovered political limp.
Therefore, what Obama believes about himself will determine whom he choses as his running mate. He’s believed one thing from the beginning. If he stops believing it, I would venture to guess that shift will weigh more in the minds of supporters and opponents than whomever stands next to the freshman senator from Illinois.
For further insight, The Bourbon Room turned to Larry Sabato, who leads the University of Virginia Center for Politics, and Steve McMahon, a top Democratic strategist. I interviewed both separately. Sabato is first, followed by McMahon.
LARRY SABATO
Q: What about Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine?
Sabato: He’s clearly on a short list. How short the list is, is in dispute. But I think Kaine has such personal chemistry with Obama that he probably is under serious consideration.
Q: Loyalty works in Kaine’s favor?
Sabato: Loyalty is one of the major reasons why Kaine is on the short list. He was the first governor outside of Illinois to endorse Obama and that was back when Obama wasn’t considered a particularly powerful candidate.
Q: What’s the downside with Kaine?
Sabato: If inexperience is the Achilles Heel for Barack Obama, then he adds another Achilles Heel with Tim Kaine. Because Kaine has no military, no defense experience. Those are the precisely the areas where Obama needs to strengthen his own portfolio.
Q: But what about Obama’s sense that he doesn’t lack foreign policy experience and has shown better judgment?
Sabato: You hear lots of different things. I suppose one of the theories within the Obama camp is if Obama picks someone with foreign policy or national security experience, it simply points out to everybody the fact that Obama doesn’t have much. If they choose someone who reinforces Obama’s (change) themes then perhaps that adds some punch to the Obama approach for the general election. I don’t necessarily buy that. I think tickets are for balancing. We don’t balance tickets in the same way we once did. They used to be based almost entirely on balancing geography or on balancing a party faction. But there are other ways to balance a ticket. And the best way to balance for a president’s success in office is to bring somebody on the ticket who has some strengths in policy and in experience that the president doesn’t have
Q: Is Kaine a plus because of Obama’s near-obsession with winning Virginia’s 13 electoral votes?
Sabato: The greatest advantage of putting Kaine on the ticket with Obama is winning Virginia. Right now, Virginia is on the edge of the butter knife. It could go either way. The incumbent governor, who is relatively popular, can almost certainly add a point or two to Obama. And that may be all he needs.
Q: Who beside Kaine would work for Obama?
Sabato: Probably the strongest and safest candidate is Sen. Evan Bayh from Indiana. He brings everything to Obama with very little cost: two terms as governor, two terms as a senator, strengths in domestic policy, and strengths in foreign policy. He also potentially brings a heavily Red State to the Democratic ticket. There have been some polls showing obama within hailing distance of McCain in Indiana. With Bayh on the ticket, it’s not impossible that Obama could carry Indiana. Plus, it’s right next to Ohio. Bayh has real strength in Ohio. There are several media markets that overlap between Indiana and Ohio. I think probably Bayh’s greatest strength for Obama is being the kind of vice presidential candidate and potentially a Vice President that Obama can really depend on — who won’t overshadow the president, who is not gaffe-inclined and who is squeaky clean.
Q: And Bayh was with Hillary Clinton, while Kaine was always with Obama…
Sabato: Kaine strongly supported Obama from the beginning. Bayh was a strong Hillary Clinton supporter and I think the Clinton folks at this point would like to have something thrown in their direction. And the vice presidential nominee would be a substaintial piece to throw.
Q: Could Obama pick a woman who isn’t Hillary Clinton?
Sabato: Superficially, you’d think that if Hillary Clinton weren’t chosen, that Clinton and her supporters would want another woman. But the other theory is that if you pick another woman it’s an insult to Hillary Clinton. It’s really substituting and promoting another woman over Hillary Clinton, who got about half the vote and half the delegates.
STEVE MCMAHON:
Q: What are the choices confronting Obama with his running mate pick?
McMahon: There are two paths here for Sen. Obama. One is to continue on the change trajectory and ‘we’re bringing new leadership and a new style’ and that might favor Gov. Tim Kaine of Virginia. He’s somebody that most people aren’t familiar with and don’t know very much about. There’s the other path, which is probably a little bit safer, which is the experience path. Bringing somebody onto the ticket with Washington, D.C. experience, with national security experience, with a foreign policy credential. Someone like a Joe Biden (Delware Democrat) or perhaps an Evan Bayh. I think those two paths kind of diverge and it will be interesting to see which way he goes.
Q: Do you think Obama needs a running mate with experience?
McMahon: I think if you look at why Sen. Obama hasn’t been able to move up to 50% or 51% or 52% in the polls, it’s because, as he says, people are taking a look under the hood and kicking the tires. I think if he had somebody with some national security experience, with some Washington experience, somebody who could do for him what (then-Texas Sen. and Senate Majority Leader) Lyndon Johnson did for John Kennedy (in 1960), it would really benefit him enormously. Joe Biden, Evan Bayh, Hillary Clinton, all those names come to mind.
Q: How big a decision is this for Obama?
McMahon: This is the frist major decision Sen. Obama is going to have to make all by himself in this campaign. And it’s going to have lasting implications. Does he want to continue this trajectory of change, bring someone most Americans maybe have never heard of, Kaine or someone like that? Or does he want to do something to shore up an area where many Americans might be asking questions — national security, Washington experience and that would bring someone like Biden, Sen. Clinton or someone like Bayh into play.
Q: A big decision means lots of advice, right?
McMahon: There’s no doubt that Obama is getting a lot of advice from a lot of different people, from Caroline Kennedy to his campaign staff. There are geographic considerations, there are gender considerations, there are political considerations. But at the end of the day this is a decision for Sen. Obama and he should base it on one thing: who does he want sitting down the hallway from him, who does he trust to be there in the middle of the night or first thing in the morning when a crisis hits, who is it that he feels he can work best with? That, at the end of the day, is how he ought to make this decision.
Q: What about loyalty as a factor?
McMahon: Loyalty has been a big factor in the Obama campaign from the beginning. Gov. Kaine of Virginia was very loyal in February of 2007 when he endorsed Obama. His campaign staff is shared, his pollster is somebody the Obama campaign uses — so he’s a well-known commodity in that sense. And I think he was critically important to winning Virginia for Sen. Obama (in the primaries) and he helps to put Virginia in play in the fall. If Barack Obama can win Virginia, it’s going to be almost impossible for John McCain to win this election. I think that there’s a comfort level with Gov. Kaine that perhaps doesn’t seem to exist yet with Sen. Bayh. Having said that, Sen. Bayh would be a great choice because he does bring Washington experience. He’s got a foreign policy credential. And he would put Indiana in play, which normally is out of reach for most Democrats.
Q: Could Obama pick a woman not named Hillary Clinton?
McMahon: There’s not another woman out there today who would bring what Sen. Clinton would bring to the ticket. And I think for many Clinton supporters, it would be very difficult to see another woman like Gov. (Kathleen) Sebelius, as qualified as she may be, take the spot of what most people or many people would regard to be the spot that belongs to Sen. Clinton. If it’s going to go to a woman, I think most Clinton supporters would hope and expect that it would be Sen. Clinton.